Everyone opinion Please

[goodcat]

and now now ladies! one of the reason i come on here is to get away from women!
just kiss and make up!

[ian2144]

Finland has the right idea, you have to have lessons for three years, and drive on test tracks, skidpans, loose gravel, etc, the take it very seriously over there which means that even if a kid does get into trouble, they have the skills to hopefully get out of it, we all know sometimes you have to take the decision to either floor it to get out the way or brake hard, yet you only learn this kind of thing after you have your licence, which dosnt make much sense, if you have the skills to avoid trouble then you ve got more chance.

plus if you have spent a few months scaring the bejezes out of yourself on a skidpan, you tend to be a bit more retrospect when actually driving!




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I'm with you on this Idea.

I joined my local motorsport club when I was 17 and go into Autotests. Learning how to control your car in an unstable condition, has kept me on the road for 35 years.

[daithediver]

Just read this thread and agree with the black box idea.Ialso think there should be futher training which should be compulsary after the basic driving test.I have been driving emergency vehicles for the last 31 years on Blues and Twos and thanks to the advanced training I received have not had an accident.When my kids (3) passed their tests I took them out and passed on my training,they all have blemish free driving histories and I like to think its because of what I taught them.The standard driving test only gives them the basic skills.It teaches nothing about how to read the road,or the correct line for a bend,observation seems to be restricted to the rear of the vehicle infront,not as far ahead as possible as it should be.Once they pass the theory test they forget all about hazard warning lines and other clues as to what lies ahead.They haven`t a clue about braking distances on the road and how to adjust them for different conditions.Once they lose the L plates they think YAHOO now I can do as I want and forget all that theory b0ll0cks.If they new they had to attend advanced lessons over the next two years they would have to remember these things and they would become part of their normal driving behaviour thus making the raods a safer place for everyone.
Thats my two pennith so there.

[gwh200]

Ahhh that's crap news mate.

Trouble is, at 17, you think you're indestructible, and no-one knows more about driving at speed than you do. As you get older you become more circumspect because you start to appreciate you're mortal. You start to worry about your own kids etc etc. These days, well, I cant remember the last time I went faster than 70!

I dont see an easy answer other than perhaps some compulsory hazard perception / motorway speed training to build some experience after the normal driving test, and very heavy fines / points for speeding / dangerous driving etc until you reach an age you are mature enough to be a reasonable risk.

I also killed an early GT-Four many moons ago, due to my enthusiasm outstripping my skill / experience. Thankfully I got away with it, and the person that was with me got away with cuts / bruises, but you learn from it!

You cant remember what you did yesterday !!

but i digress...no fster than 70...better geta 4.2 v8 jag then andy......

[Sancho]

How is limiting people to 70 going to help? That's the speed limit anyway and few people top that except on the motorway, where the least crashes happen. Every accident or near miss of my youth was substantially under 70 and the one time I ever got really brown pants was trying to overtake with nothing like enough acceleration.

At the same time, I came fairly close to death recently seeing what a Lotus Elan 'could do' on a country lane. Scare the sh1t out of me, evidently.

The only way to really learn road skills is through experience. Failing that, I still maintain (as the Finland idea) that more rigorous training and testing is required. Black box isn't a bad idea, but I am a big believer in personal, rather than enforced, responsibility.

[JUDWAK]

iam not realy intrested in your small mindedness dude iam realy not
if you have a problem with me mate get it all of ya chest pal
if you want owt else i'll give ya my address if ya like
or give me yours


But just imagine how many hedges you would have to throw the truck into on a drive that far.
I hope that's not a threat of violence on top the abuse in previous posts. I will give you the benifit of the doubt, this one time.

i will put this nice and plain
stop being a tool
its not a threat
its called putting it on ya toes
swop addresses call me a lier or dramea queen to my face thats all iam

saying now my number sir rr1255 cell 152 house block 1
your a scerw/po who dont like people like me thats a bit down to earth
iam i right?
its you with the problem mate
whats up ya wife left ya
or bad day at work
too drunk again
what ?
are have you just a problem with me personley?

[gwh200]

How is limiting people to 70 going to help? That's the speed limit anyway and few people top that except on the motorway, where the least crashes happen. Every accident or near miss of my youth was substantially under 70 and the one time I ever got really brown pants was trying to overtake with nothing like enough acceleration.

At the same time, I came fairly close to death recently seeing what a Lotus Elan 'could do' on a country lane. Scare the sh1t out of me, evidently.

The only way to really learn road skills is through experience. Failing that, I still maintain (as the Finland idea) that more rigorous training and testing is required. Black box isn't a bad idea, but I am a big believer in personal, rather than enforced, responsibility.

so welcome to my 2.4 0n 33's/3 cylinder corsa world...

and george and yoshie...what the hell...I have the biggest willy so stop the competition right now

[RodLeach]

so welcome to my 2.4 0n 33's/3 cylinder corsa world...

and george and yoshie...what the hell...I have the biggest willy so stop the competition right now

Screw you... mines soooo big that i can sit downstairs an take a pi$$ upstairs!!

[JUDWAK]

my dick matchs my car
its a 2.4 inch

[Diezel Weazel]

Just to put my tupennyworth in ...
Now when I passed my Test my Instructor said " Now ya passed, learning to drive starts now" I think it was quite commonplace comment from Instructors at that time ....

There's always a Payback .... It'll always take longer than five minutes !!!!

[gwh200]

Screw you... mines soooo small that i have to sit an take a pi$$

Yeah i know mate ..

my dick matchs my car
its a 2.4 inch

Niiiiiccceeeee !!!!

Just to put my tupennyworth in ...
Now when I passed my Test my Instructor said " Now ya passed, learning to drive starts now" I think it was quite commonplace comment from Instructors at that time ....

There's always a Payback .... It'll always take longer than five minutes !!!!

Very true jess. I couldnt agree more

[yoshie]

i will put this nice and plain
stop being a tool
its not a threat
its called putting it on ya toes
swop addresses call me a lier or dramea queen to my face thats all iam

saying now my number sir rr1255 cell 152 house block 1
your a scerw/po who dont like people like me thats a bit down to earth
iam i right?
its you with the problem mate
whats up ya wife left ya
or bad day at work
too drunk again
what ?
are have you just a problem with me personley?

Any chance someone with spare time today could re type this in english for me. I think he is trying to apologise but it's hard to tell.

[RodLeach]

Im a sarcastic g!t..

G!T!

[Sancho]

Any chance someone with spare time today could re type this in english for me. I think he is trying to apologise but it's hard to tell.

I will put this nice and plain. Stop being a tool. It's not a threat its called putting it on your toes. (I don't know what that means).

Swap addresses and call me a liar or drama queen to my face, that's all I am saying. Now my number sir; rr1255 cell 152 house block 1. (I don't get this either, but think it might be something to do with prison).
You are a prison or police officer who doesn't like people like me who are a bit down to earth. Am i right?

It's you with the problem mate. What's up? Did your wife leave your or are you having a bad day at work? Perhaps you are too drunk again.

What, do you just have a problem with me personally?

Didn't your parents ever teach you not to blow down dogs' noses, Yoshie?

[yoshie]

Didn't your parents ever teach you not to blow down dogs' noses, Yoshie?

They said as long as their small or slow you will be fine.