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  • #16
    That is the problem with box section, it does and always will look agricultural. I could use the machine at work that would sut through solid aluminium but it wouldnt be aircraft grade or anything. Its not really as though you are going to see most of the bodylift kit anyway. I dont know some more thinking.

    Perhaps when i order all my tyres and stuff i will order the nylon bodylift as well. Would be nice to take this thing for its maiden run. Probably end up getting to the end of the drive and blowing the diffs and axles anyway, and if it doesnt it will spin into someones garden. 400hp will do that to a machine
    Completely bitten by the off road bug, and what better vehicle to do it in!

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    • #17
      Who is stein by the way does he have any 3"bodylift i could purchase?
      Completely bitten by the off road bug, and what better vehicle to do it in!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by wishbone View Post
        The whole chassis is box section, so a little more really wouldn't stick out if its welded in nicely and prepped/painted properly. tbh my post was more about the safety side of things - I have visions of the whole body just sheering off the chassis in an accident on or off road. (when the spacers get large)

        Rob.
        Your spot on!!

        Large body lifts create a huge strain on the body and chassis mounts. If the trucks getting thrown around you can cause mega damage. Even pop a mount where the body just breaks around the mount. Leaving you with plenty of welding.

        Cooler, If your going for a Solid axle swap I'd leave a body lift.

        You can get 6"+ of lift off the leaf springs an shackles.

        6" lift would let you run 35x12.50's no problem an anything larger then that you might want to look at regearing. You'll always have problems going over 33x12.50 tyres with offroad unless you set the bump stops low.

        the wheel arch can handle a 33x12.50 no problems!! anything bigger just hits the truck under full articulation.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Cooler View Post
          That is the problem with box section, it does and always will look agricultural. I could use the machine at work that would sut through solid aluminium but it wouldnt be aircraft grade or anything. Its not really as though you are going to see most of the bodylift kit anyway. I dont know some more thinking.

          Perhaps when i order all my tyres and stuff i will order the nylon bodylift as well. Would be nice to take this thing for its maiden run. Probably end up getting to the end of the drive and blowing the diffs and axles anyway, and if it doesnt it will spin into someones garden. 400hp will do that to a machine
          Originally posted by Cooler View Post
          Who is stein by the way does he have any 3"bodylift i could purchase?

          What engine are you running?! Rover V8?

          erm.. do a google for outrageous4x4

          or look on here for a guy called "surfenstein"

          he fabricates that kinda stuff.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Cooler View Post
            Who is stein by the way does he have any 3"bodylift i could purchase?


            This man

            Rob.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cooler View Post
              Who is stein by the way does he have any 3"bodylift i could purchase?
              See post #3.

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              • #22
                woo i like the surf pickup, that is well cool. and different. thank you for the link i will give it a ring
                Completely bitten by the off road bug, and what better vehicle to do it in!

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                • #23
                  i am definately thinking about a live axle conversion now, but without leafs. i dont like them and i dont trust them. plus they are as ancient as the wheel itself. i am however looking at fabricating some form of 4 link suspension. i mean i can get the solid axle for near to nothing. its just i dont really have that much experience in fabrication so it would be silly to attempt a project like this without the help of experienced people who fancied trying something new.

                  i want this truck to stand out and already with a 2jzgte in it, tuned to 409hp (not confirmed as yet as it needs a rolling road now, Updates on that later) if i can get the suspension to lift and accomodate the wheels i want. being 35" - 39" the the bodylift would be made redundant as i would keep the strength. Anyone tried new suspension systems on their surfs yet?
                  Completely bitten by the off road bug, and what better vehicle to do it in!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cooler View Post
                    i am definately thinking about a live axle conversion now, but without leafs. i dont like them and i dont trust them. plus they are as ancient as the wheel itself. i am however looking at fabricating some form of 4 link suspension. i mean i can get the solid axle for near to nothing. its just i dont really have that much experience in fabrication so it would be silly to attempt a project like this without the help of experienced people who fancied trying something new.

                    i want this truck to stand out and already with a 2jzgte in it, tuned to 409hp (not confirmed as yet as it needs a rolling road now, Updates on that later) if i can get the suspension to lift and accomodate the wheels i want. being 35" - 39" the the bodylift would be made redundant as i would keep the strength. Anyone tried new suspension systems on their surfs yet?
                    There is a guy on another forum im on whos got a 4 link suspension set up on his hilux. pretty smart.

                    Most expensive thing will be coilovers. You'll want long ones!!

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                    • #25
                      Any help on the matter would be much appreciated. i know it not going to build itself overnight but isnt that the point. when you are having porblems with the missus then you can just retreat back into the garage and weld something, or take something off and clean it up. excellent for de-stressing. either that or the pub

                      cheers for the help
                      Completely bitten by the off road bug, and what better vehicle to do it in!

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                      • #26
                        One of your best options might be to look on www.pirate4x4.com

                        They seem to have a few build write ups on buggys/truggys.

                        They mostly have custom made 4 link suspention.

                        Make sure you do the rear aswell! Dont leave it stock!

                        Check out ebay.com for the coil overs. That kind of thing will be more available over there then here.

                        I think you can get all in one units. Like a shock absorber that stands alone with no spring but still functions as if it had one.

                        dont quote me on that...

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                        • #27
                          yeah the plan is to change all the suspension. i won't just leave the back stock. I'm just toying with a few ideas. There are a load of nice trucks in austrailia, some with solid axles but a few with the 4" ifs lift. some of the suspension ideas i do have will probably mean cutting the origional chassis down to accomodate space frame for the four link sus.

                          i dont really know what to do. They say the only way to learn is to do, so here goes. checking out pirate 4x4 now
                          Completely bitten by the off road bug, and what better vehicle to do it in!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cooler View Post
                            yeah the plan is to change all the suspension. i won't just leave the back stock. I'm just toying with a few ideas. There are a load of nice trucks in austrailia, some with solid axles but a few with the 4" ifs lift. some of the suspension ideas i do have will probably mean cutting the origional chassis down to accomodate space frame for the four link sus.

                            i dont really know what to do. They say the only way to learn is to do, so here goes. checking out pirate 4x4 now
                            You might have to trim the transfer case crossmember.

                            you'll want to just run like two hoops under the truck which are the main supports for the arms. Then its just a case of a sh!t load of adjustable rose joints an some bar.

                            You'll need to be carful. That kind of suspension set up is VERY easy to go crazy on!! any height is attainable with 4 link.

                            But then the prop angles will be wrong an the UJ's will bind an chew each other up.

                            Even with the big power house engine you'll want to regear running massive tyres. Also, Be aware that anything much bigger then a 35" (or the 37" maxxis creepy crawlers off ebay! ) tends to run at around £250 a tyre + for new.

                            2nd hand can be cheaper but its just finding them.

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                            • #29
                              yeah i thought about the propshafts, they will be double carden hd shafts. i looked at some coilovers from fox racing, pricy but the best i have found. i didnt even think about the transfer case crossmember. i looked at it briefly this morning before work, and to be honest it looks relatively easy to do for a skilled welder fabricator (not me).

                              as for the height, the idea is to have suspension that i wont have to change again (other than broken stuff) and be able to adjust the height and shock rates for different types of offroading. gearing will be changed. trying to keep the 6 speed box from the supra and bolt on the transfer box to that. someone mentioned to gearbox should bolt straight on but im not so sure.

                              if this truck messes up i still have two others to play with anyway.
                              Completely bitten by the off road bug, and what better vehicle to do it in!

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                              • #30
                                Good stuff!

                                Just watch you dont turn the axles to make the angles better, You'll starve the Pinion of oil.

                                google "trail gear" an then browse there website an find the hi-steer conversion kits.

                                Steering will be an issue with such a huge suspension travel.

                                Personally i wouldn't go too crazy. Adjustable suspension is going to cost a huge amount of money.

                                Avoid Fox. Very good but the money they cost makes them a poor choice. You wont need reservoir shocks. There made for speed.

                                I cant remember the bl**dy name mate but theres some decent coil overs somewhere on US ebay for around $200 a piece. Which isn't bad for what your getting.

                                you'll be getting a huge amount of travel so you'll need to look into making some pretty strong bump stops to stop the tyre smashing into the truck.

                                Dont forget to add gussets on the top of the axles either side of the diff housing. NOT on the bottom of the axle! You'll want them. If your throwing around a big tyre on a very flexible solid axle they will snap without added strength.

                                Have a browse on yotatech.com an see what size tyres you like on surfs. Get some kind of idea in your head what you want an im sure we can chip in an work out the specs of the lift/tyre size etc.

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