Help needed

[smithg]

Crankshaft Position Sensor.DO I FIT NEW??

Big Thanks to Rubble bags & Steveo,
Just back fromToyota & it looks like the kiddy 'cos it has the retaining bolt, however, no sign of an "O" ring??
Well is it worth a shot for £40? I suspect if the gap? (yes I'm guessing here!)
between the sensor head/pickup is worn then it could be sending duff info to the pump & the ECU? as I've tried everything else other than replacing the ECU itself ,my only other chance is setting the pump to the 2L non-turbo non-EFI.Settings? What do you think guys???
Gary.

[smithg]

Its Got Worse!!! Ecu? Please Help!!!

Hi all,
I am seriously desperate now as the engine warranty has but two weeks left!! I cannot get anyone to listen to my engine, short of kidnapping, I've tried offering call out fees, but soon as people know its a grey import they leg it! I fitted the new Crankshaft Position sensor, and the knock is now a few decibles louder!! This makes me think it still is Diesel Knock, but I'm not certain. Again my Engineer friend is convinced there must be a Pump stroke/ dail gauge setting regardless of the ECU. Now if he is wrong, but the noise is diesel knock then it must be the ECU itself! Has anyone ever replaced one of these or got one checked? (I've asked this before!) PLEASE HELP!!!

Gary.

[smithg]

Has Anyone replaced/fitted a non -original Diesel Pump??

I've spoken to another engineer who is totally adamant that any Diesel pump fitted to an engine OTHER than the original fitted EXACTLY to the same position, Must have the Timing/plunger stroke set with a dial gauge to the manufacturers settings. Unless you are ***t lucky the ECU cannot compensate for anything more than a extremely minor misalignment of the pump body. Surely I'm not the only person to fit the original engines pump to a replacement engine?

[smithg]

Elise Auto's Cheshunt Herts. WHO?

In my desperation to find the Pump Timing settings I'm now ringing people at random. As this firm appeared in the list of good guys and Cheshunt is in my back yard I've tried all the 118 people and a phone number does not exist?
Has anyone an address or something? Preferably a contact who might have access to the pump settings?

[gemini]

In my desperation to find the Pump Timing settings I'm now ringing people at random. As this firm appeared in the list of good guys and Cheshunt is in my back yard I've tried all the 118 people and a phone number does not exist?
Has anyone an address or something? Preferably a contact who might have access to the pump settings?

the pump internal settings wont have altered, as you have removed the pump from the engine it must be timed to the new engine as i explained in post 50

[smithg]

Pump Timing.

Thanks Ian,
Yes I remember your advice re: post 50 and the local pump specialist have the tools to do this, But, as with my two engineer contacts, they also think there must be some factory timing settings which require the use of the dial gauge! are you saying that by aligning this tool it will set the pump correctly? and have you or anyone you know successfully set the timing for the Diesel pump this way? ( I really, really hope so mate!!!)
That's assuming they are refering to the same tool!
Gary.

[SSO42]

Hi Gary,
In one of your previous post you mentioned that you wanted to know about how the camshaft sprocket timing marks should be aligned. I hope that this diagram will help.

[SSO42]

Gary,
Sorry about that mate, the diagram is supposed to show where all the pulleys (camshaft, crankshaft and injector pump) should line up. The crankshaft pulley and the injector pump pulley both have marks that must align with corresponding markers on the engine. For the camshaft pulley however, the case is different as there is no corresponding marker on the engine side. The mark on the pulley should align with the surface of the cylinder head on the 3 o'clock position. I hope the explanation is enough.

[marky]

will this do

[SSO42]

Hi Marky,
Very good picture. Now I myself am confused. In reference to the camshaft pulley: I noticed that there is a "white" arrow on the engine side which aligns with the marker on the camshaft pulley. If there is a stamped arrow marking in that position then that MUST be the correct one. In your picture the camshaft marker is in the 6 o'clock position. In the diagram which I have, the camshaft marker should be in the 3 o'clock position (90 degrees from the vertical). I got the diagram from a forum where mechanics answer your querries. www.batauto.com.

[marky]

that is a pic care of stevo when he rebuilt petes engine no doubt he will comment on this

[gemini]

Hi Marky,
Very good picture. Now I myself am confused. In reference to the camshaft pulley: I noticed that there is a "white" arrow on the engine side which aligns with the marker on the camshaft pulley. If there is a stamped arrow marking in that position then that MUST be the correct one. In your picture the camshaft marker is in the 6 o'clock position. In the diagram which I have, the camshaft marker should be in the 3 o'clock position (90 degrees from the vertical). I got the diagram from a forum where mechanics answer your querries. www.batauto.com.

they are wrong i'm afraid, six o' clock is the correct position for the camshaft timing arrow, it can be seen clearly on the casing behind the wheel

[smithg]

Its not the Timing!!

Thanks for all the info guys, the diagram is spot on! I have finally had my Surf inspected by a Diesel expert and know that my timing is correct, having changed every component and set the timing several times I'm happy to pass on what I've learned. 6 O'clock is correct for the Camshaft sprocket there is a small raised white arrow on the rear timing casing pointing upwards.
Back to my Surf! Without dismantling we are pretty sure a combustion chamber has dislodged itself! And surprisingly the engine manufacturer is not responding to my claim thus far!!! I know they buy in re-con heads and fit them to the block they've re-built, so it may be they are arguing with the head supplier? I shall give them the benefit of doubt for now..... but be ready for a big name and shame if they bugger me about!
Gary.

[stevo]

cam timing mark

The cam timing position on the first 2L type engine is indeed @ 3 o'clock, but as far as I know this type of engine was not fitted in the Surf but it was fitted in the 2.4 Landcruiser. We recently rebuilt one for an 87 cruiser (incidentaly the head was cracked, so no change there then)
Cheers Steve.

[smithg]

Cam timing mark!!! 2.4LTE.

For those of you who use the Aussie Haynes Manual which gives both 3 & 6 0'clock settings. Always remember this book albiet helpful, is really for Normally aspirated 2.4L engines, and NOT EFI TURBO'S (2LTE)!! the 3'oclock setting is for very early export 4-Runners, Hi-Lux trucks, and some Land Crusiers. 6' o'clock is correct for all 2446 CC EFI Turbo's.