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i think you should do it. then may be the lazy ones who have been a member for a year, and has always said they will pay the small £10 fee, and actually hasnt yet, but keeps saying they will, might just get out there and do it...
not naming any names though.
ps. do you host the lot yourself? ive got a watchguard x500 firewall going cheap if your interested..
i would offer to help host part of the site for you but giving my tinternet teething probs, its not in the best interest of the site at this current moment in time.
it's a good idea if funds need raising to keep the site going well. if people are accessing the tech page then £10 to diagnos a problem and save a fortune from garages who mis-diagnos and charge for the privilege until they eventually get it right will not be a problem.
anyone who gets put off and doesn't pay up or use the forum, then it's their loss, not any of ours.
One of the things i liked about this site is it's openness and voluntry subs some other sites i've signed up to are very restrictive, but if it's geting too cash hungry the way it is then ok, if i can afford a tenner anyone can, only prob i have with it is as Sancho said, Nev and a few others (abroad) would be left hanging, when i first joined the Aus surf site i even offered to contribute to them but was told they were subsidised by a major insurer and it was'nt req, perhaps as someone just said, limited advertiseing or summat,
i've just answered a techy question to a non blue star'er (sorry)
anyway i'll go along with wot you blokes say
The annual spend of forum members at Roughtrax and Milners must be fairly high. Any chance a small contribution from them could be sought.
How long has it been £10 per year
As said by others the world meets no one half way. Maybe the £10 should only buy 6 months membership/access to tech/for sale/parts section and all members agree not to discuss or answer tech on any other sections.
Sections above seem most popular for newbies reasos for droppig in.
I do think Koi shouldn't be left to bear the brunt of the cost of what is 'our' forum, but we need to be wary that a solution doesn't become divisive and alienate people.
Advertising would be ideal, but it might make the site unweildy as some sites that have lots of advertising are. A multilayered approach such as removal of the search function, limited amount of postings etc should be possible, so potential members can gain a flavour of how useful the site is may work, with full access granted only when subs have been paid.
As someone else said, a fairly obvious, upfront mention of how the site costs money to support might also get some more people to pay the piffling roughly 20p a week!
[QUOTE=Apache;413852]I do think Koi shouldn't be left to bear the brunt of the cost of what is 'our' forum, but we need to be wary that a solution doesn't become divisive and alienate people.
Absolutely the site is brillian't and would be sad to see its demise it should be self sufficiant. and people can't begrudge £10 you can't find this sort of information anywhere
One of the things i liked about this site is it's openness and voluntry subs some other sites i've signed up to are very restrictive, but if it's geting too cash hungry the way it is then ok, if i can afford a tenner anyone can, only prob i have with it is as Sancho said, Nev and a few others (abroad) would be left hanging, when i first joined the Aus surf site i even offered to contribute to them but was told they were subsidised by a major insurer and it was'nt req, perhaps as someone just said, limited advertiseing or summat,
This is the main site i use and as popeye says it's openness and voluntry subs is one of the things that sets this site apart ......
the greif that has occoured on the hpoc and 4x4uk after the introduction of subs to access some areas have driven useful contributors away .
i will continue to pay my subs here as it in my opinion ' HOME', but the exclusion of some useful contributors (such as nev )will be sadly missed, if they are unable to assist in the replies to members technical questions.
some valid points and suggestions, will look in to the possibility of limiting new members to a certain amount of posts. Will need to see if the forum software can easily be set to do this.
Cluttering the site with adds, pop ups etc is something I have steered away from as I personally hate a site cluttered with adds.
Say not always what you know, but always know what you say.
I do think Koi shouldn't be left to bear the brunt of the cost of what is 'our' forum, but we need to be wary that a solution doesn't become divisive and alienate people.
Very true, it's not fair on Koi to be subing the site, I don't know the answer though but something has to happen?
idea?
Another site I know of that was run as a coop used affiliate links in a thread which I setup, so members when buying products from Amazon, Dabs etc volunteerly bought through the links and created a couple of hundred pounds per year to help fund the forums, the funds raised were completely transparent in the thread.
No adverts as such because they were all in one thread, it did work very well to help raise funds.
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