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  • #31
    Originally posted by Vagrant No2
    Was that so you could get the key in to wind up the spring



    Rick
    , just go and look for your cakes dad!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Greebo
      link for bonnet fan.

      http://www.pacet.co.uk/bonnet.htm

      dont think they sell direct but they list Scorpion racing as one of there main dealers.

      Scorpion Racing
      London NW1
      Phone
      Fax
      0208 2114888
      0208 2114999

      they also do auto coolers
      http://www.pacet.co.uk/oilCool.htm
      That is my nearest 4x4 shop. I have in the past steered clear of them due to a bit of arsing about in the past. They took all my old tyres off and then told me they had not got what they originaly said. Then took 2.5 hours to put 4 tyres on. Not Happy. Once Bitten..............

      Geoff.
      Rubblebags (Geoff).

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      • #33
        Originally posted by rubblebags
        That is my nearest 4x4 shop. I have in the past steered clear of them due to a bit of arsing about in the past. They took all my old tyres off and then told me they had not got what they originaly said. Then took 2.5 hours to put 4 tyres on. Not Happy. Once Bitten..............

        Geoff.
        loads of other outlets on there homepage.
        mudnstuff.me.uk

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Greebo
          loads of other outlets on there homepage.
          Yes .Just looked on the home page. Might take a trip over to Croydon and have a nose around.

          thanks
          Geoff.
          Rubblebags (Geoff).

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          • #35
            Originally posted by rubblebags
            Yes .Just looked on the home page. Might take a trip over to Croydon and have a nose around.

            thanks
            Geoff.
            Watch out for them SPEED CAMERAS they're all over the place.
            (\__/)
            (='.'=) SQUIRREL MUNCHER GRRRRRRR
            (")_(")

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            • #36
              Update.

              Got the recond rad back on Friday so Ive had a couple of days to check it out.
              The temperature was normal on Friday but the rad was stone cold. The system did not have any air in it and caused concern. At first I just thought that the rad had just split under the symptom of old age. It was the thermostat stuck shut. Looks like I was very lucky it did'nt cause more damage. The rad has been upgraded to a four core which meant the top and bottom tanks had to be widened to accommodate the extra core. The rad cowl will have to be modified to fit back snugly.I was going to mod the top of the cowl anyway, so as to make cleaning the rad easy. It is approx 0.25" closer to the engine so it is even harder to do up those fan nuts now.
              The temperature needle now sits to the left of the centre white line and shows a small portion of black between needle/white line. It has never done this in two years so I think it is safe to say it is running cooler.
              I chose to leve the oil cooler in the rad and when next towing the caravan I will closley monitor it.
              The price of the upgraded rad was £150 + vat.

              Viking Radiator Co Tel: 020 8427 6400
              21 Springfield Rd,
              Harrow,
              Middlesex
              HA1 1QF
              Ask for John and mention the forum.


              Thanks to Rick, Tony and all others gave opinions and advice.

              Geoff.
              Last edited by rubblebags; 4 October 2004, 16:17.
              Rubblebags (Geoff).

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              • #37
                Geoff,

                Thats good news. I have been doing some further sniffing around. I went to Serck Intertruck today in Hayes, they have provisionally quoted £235.00 + vat to do the same job. Stretch teh tanks, squeeze in a 4 core element, strengthen all the pressed in ridges, and additionally remove/move the gearbox cooler from the lower tank to add a separate cooler (approx £40.00 + vat for a 13core oil cooler). That works out at about £326.00 all in. 4 days to complete.

                Coincidentally, a HiLux/Surf Rad element is identical across the board (according to these guys). Three core, 475mm x 525mm x 47mm (give or take), so any rad with a mullered core will do/fit... three core, £185.00 + vat, still a bit pricey, and John may be more in a position to do a deal for forum members, just wanted to double check the price.

                So, are you going to try the higher pressure Rad cap?

                AndyL

                Roy at Serck Intertruck
                Unit 9 - 10, Brook Industrial Estate
                Hayes
                Middx
                UB4 0JZ
                tel: 0208 561 1508

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by AndyLala
                  Coincidentally, a HiLux/Surf Rad element is identical across the board (according to these guys). Three core, 475mm x 525mm x 47mm (give or take), so any rad with a mullered core will do/fit...


                  AndyL
                  Not sure about that, this is a 3.0TD Surf (big) and a V6 4Runner Rad (small) A 2.4 is the same size as the small 4Runner UK spec rad, but with the hose connections on the same sides as the 3.0TD one.



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                  • #39
                    only quoting what the chap at Serck told me... obviously he hasn't seen that many hilux and/or surf radiators...

                    So, how did bundunasher squeeze a 5 core radiator in then?

                    ***Edit
                    So the mounting points look the same on both... will the 3.0TD fit in a 2.4...?
                    Or does the lower panel below the rad need modifying...

                    ***


                    Hohum...andyL
                    Last edited by AndyLala; 4 October 2004, 19:19.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by AndyLala
                      only quoting what the chap at Serck told me... obviously he hasn't seen that many hilux and/or surf radiators...

                      So, how did bundunasher squeeze a 5 core radiator in then?

                      ***Edit
                      So the mounting points look the same on both... will the 3.0TD fit in a 2.4...?
                      Or does the lower panel below the rad need modifying...

                      ***


                      Hohum...andyL
                      Looking at Linda's, the bottom of the rad sticks down further between the chassis rails than a 2.4, it looks like it will fit, but I not sure about the guys with the underslung aircon rads, may foul them. And the plastic bash guards won't fit, 3.0's have a deeper metal one with a vent in the front, to protect the lower bit of the rad, but still let air flow.

                      wasn't saying anthing about you (or them), just didn't want people to dash out and buy the wrong rads.

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                      • #41
                        Of course, agreed. Whole point of a forum to get a consensus on what does, or doesn't work.


                        TonyN, you got the measurements on the 3.0td rad, both the core and the external dimensions?

                        2.4td does have the sump guard with the vents in the front and underneath. 3.0td's have aircon as well, so where is their aircon rad? Just wonder if it is possible to fit it in. The australians mention fitting the 2.8td rad... apparently their rad is larger than the 2.4td...? From your comments, it would appear that the 3.0td is larger again then... anyone else got any ideas?

                        as with any of my other mods, I can only afford to do this once, and I don't want to visit cooling problems again...

                        andyL

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                        • #42
                          The V6 shell has a different front panel. You can buy the diesel slam panel as a separate item but the V6 one is only available as part of the complete front.
                          Attached Files

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                          • #43
                            Turandot,


                            you got the model number for the V6 surf, so I can go and search the EPC...?

                            cheers, andyL

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                            • #44
                              '89-'91 is RZN130
                              '92-'95 is VZN130

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by AndyLala
                                Of course, agreed. Whole point of a forum to get a consensus on what does, or doesn't work.


                                TonyN, you got the measurements on the 3.0td rad, both the core and the external dimensions?

                                2.4td does have the sump guard with the vents in the front and underneath. 3.0td's have aircon as well, so where is their aircon rad? Just wonder if it is possible to fit it in. The australians mention fitting the 2.8td rad... apparently their rad is larger than the 2.4td...? From your comments, it would appear that the 3.0td is larger again then... anyone else got any ideas?

                                as with any of my other mods, I can only afford to do this once, and I don't want to visit cooling problems again...

                                andyL
                                Right, both our trucks, the 3.0 and the 2.4 both have the aircon rads in front of the main rad, with nothing under the engine. the 3.0 has a big metal sump plate, deep dished to cover the bottem or the rad, (and a aircon rad if it was there) Our 2.4 has a lower profile thick rubber bash plate (will, did have, but it lost a battle with the terrain at Pingewood ) , that is tucked up higher, which is the same set up as a UK V6 4Runner.

                                Give a couple of days, and I can measure both the 3.0 and 2.4 Rad properly. Seeing Shelley tomorrow, so might be able to measure the V6 UK 4Runner as well.

                                I also know 2 people with 2.8lt (non turbo though) pickups, might be able to get measurements.
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