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  • #16
    Originally posted by shokenore View Post
    He will know this 'cos he has had diesels before.
    I didn't mean to cause offence, was just saying that I know the drill when it comes to starting a diesel. Didnt want you thinking I was just turning it straight to start etc.

    I really appreciate the help you guys are giving me, I'll try and get a vid of it starting and the smoke etc tomorrow morning.
    If I like it, Bushwhacker doesn't. :-)

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    • #17
      I have not been offended by your comments.

      Just trying to take you through a logical fault finding process to cure your hard starting.

      So far you are fairly certain that your battery/batteries are in good working order.

      I think we can agree that your fuel primer may be suspect.

      IMHO I would get the garage to prove the glow plugs are working, whilst doing this it would not hurt to get them to do a drop test on the batteries, ensure that they are tested in isolation as per Vince's suggestion.

      I look forward to the video
      Eat.Sleep.Surf.Repeat.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by shokenore View Post

        So far you are fairly certain that your battery/batteries are in good working order.

        I think we can agree that your fuel primer may be suspect.

        IMHO I would get the garage to prove the glow plugs are working, whilst doing this it would not hurt to get them to do a drop test on the batteries, ensure that they are tested in isolation as per Vince's suggestion.

        I look forward to the video
        Here you go, it seems worse watching it, I didn't realise there was so much smoke :-(


        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XwZNpLcHnM
        If I like it, Bushwhacker doesn't. :-)

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        • #19
          Looks like unburnt fuel. Check that the glow plugs are actually getting power. Garage could have blown the glow plug fuse.

          Nev.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by NiftyNev View Post
            Looks like unburnt fuel. Check that the glow plugs are actually getting power. Garage could have blown the glow plug fuse.

            Nev.
            Can you tell me where to find the glow plugs and where to put my multi meter to test them?

            Thanks
            If I like it, Bushwhacker doesn't. :-)

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Benross View Post
              Can you tell me where to find the glow plugs and where to put my multi meter to test them?

              Thanks
              Take it back to the garage, if you start messing with it & cause damage you haven't got a leg to stand on & they will say its your fault.
              If its not broke don't fix it.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by si tate View Post
                Take it back to the garage, if you start messing with it & cause damage you haven't got a leg to stand on & they will say its your fault.
                Well my first thought when watching that was of Ivor the Engine

                As has been mentioned take it back to the garage
                Post #11
                Eat.Sleep.Surf.Repeat.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by shokenore View Post
                  Well my first thought when watching that was of Ivor the Engine

                  As has been mentioned take it back to the garage
                  Post #11
                  Ivor who!!!!

                  I'm only 39

                  Next thing you know you will be mentioning willow the wisp & magic roundabout.

                  Oh & not forgetting captain pugwash.
                  If its not broke don't fix it.

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                  • #24
                    Smoke

                    Originally posted by Benross View Post
                    Here you go, it seems worse watching it, I didn't realise there was so much smoke :-(


                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XwZNpLcHnM
                    When my Land Cruiser under fuelled there was clouds of smoke!

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                    • #25
                      I had a chat with a friend of mine who runs a garage and used to own a surf.

                      He told me how to check the plugs for voltage and to see whether they are clicking off too soon (in the morning when its nice and cold), if they are not clicking off too soon then to bring it in for him to have a look at as its obviously something else.

                      I also spoke to the garage that fitted the plugs and they said they are NGK plugs.
                      If I like it, Bushwhacker doesn't. :-)

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                      • #26
                        Benross

                        Just watched that vid...does it carry on smoking when you rev it after starting?
                        Could it be oil entering the combustion chamber due to a fault unrelated to the glow plugs and over fueling is where i'm going with that thought.

                        Oh and that's my 100th post!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by andyverran View Post
                          Benross

                          Just watched that vid...does it carry on smoking when you rev it after starting?
                          Could it be oil entering the combustion chamber due to a fault unrelated to the glow plugs and over fueling is where i'm going with that thought.

                          Oh and that's my 100th post!
                          If you press the accelerator after its started it just kicks out too much smoke so i avoid it. once it's warm, as in 1 minute, it doesn't smoke at all.
                          If I like it, Bushwhacker doesn't. :-)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Benross View Post
                            If you press the accelerator after its started it just kicks out too much smoke so i avoid it. once it's warm, as in 1 minute, it doesn't smoke at all.
                            I see others have suggested tests on the glow plugs, have any of them been done?

                            Consider putting a volt meter on the glow plugs and getting someone else to turn the ignition on, time how long the glow plugs stay powered up.

                            If we assume there ok, as there new and that as it's fine once temperature is in the engine, perhaps the timer side isn't keeping them on long enough...or in fitting them the connections to the plugs or the bar that feeds them are poor. You could work along the connections with an ohm meter and see if any has high resistance.
                            Last edited by andyverran; 21 June 2013, 23:36.

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                            • #29
                              Have I said check the low plug operation?

                              Nev.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by NiftyNev View Post
                                Have I said check the low plug operation?

                                Nev.
                                indeed you did....i did notice...

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