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Originally posted by SurferjessRichard check out thread (207) SVO has duty of 28.35p if it meets the fiscal definition of Biofuel.
KTC have stated that their rapeseed oil exceeds HMRC specification, that's what I'm using and am paying 28.35 PPL
As it's KTC I brought ya at Salisbury in December ...(It does what it says on the Tin)
Good Luck
Sometimes there's a Payback .... You just can't see it Comin !!!!
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Originally posted by stormforce1067I will do Bludger.I am going to do a bit of reading up on the Rapeseed oil before i write off to them so i know whats what and so i don't look a prize idiot when i get a reply
Richard check out thread (207) SVO has duty of 28.35p if it meets the fiscal definition of Biofuel.
KTC have stated that their rapeseed oil exceeds HMRC specification, that's what I'm using and am paying 28.35 PPL
As it's KTC I brought ya at Salisbury in December ...(It does what it says on the Tin)
Good Luck
Sometimes there's a Payback .... You just can't see it Comin !!!!
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Originally posted by BludgerDepending on the outcome, could you possibly post a copy of your letter up here so others can use a similar template?
PS. Anyone see Top Gear on Sunday? Sowing and Growing Rapeseed to grow Diesel! It's good to see shows like Top Gear that have huge viewing numbers are bringing these methods into the public eye. It will probably mean tighter controls on Vege Oil use in the future, and higher rates, but if everyone got on board, then we could actually make a difference to the CO2 problems. . .
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Originally posted by stormforce1067I have just got off the phone with HMRC and they gave me a helpline number so i have spoken to them and it is down to the individual person to prove themselves that the svo meets or exceeds their specifications.So i will be writing a letter to the accounts dept in Birmingham with the ingredients of the veg oil i am using and how it is mixed and used and then see what they have to say about the lower rate of duty.
Unfortunately you cannot claim anything back from what you have paid in the past unless you can prove what oil you have been using etc.
If anyone wants the helpline number it is 08450 109000 and option 3
I will let you know what the outcome is once i get a reply.
Does anyone know the ingrediants for Tesco's Rapeseed oil by any chance just so i can let those thicko's know at hmrc
only joking b4 anyone nominates me
PS. Anyone see Top Gear on Sunday? Sowing and Growing Rapeseed to grow Diesel! It's good to see shows like Top Gear that have huge viewing numbers are bringing these methods into the public eye. It will probably mean tighter controls on Vege Oil use in the future, and higher rates, but if everyone got on board, then we could actually make a difference to the CO2 problems. . .
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Originally posted by stormforce1067Does anyone know the ingrediants for Tesco's Rapeseed oil by any chance just so i can let those thicko's know at hmrc
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I have just got off the phone with HMRC and they gave me a helpline number so i have spoken to them and it is down to the individual person to prove themselves that the svo meets or exceeds their specifications.So i will be writing a letter to the accounts dept in Birmingham with the ingredients of the veg oil i am using and how it is mixed and used and then see what they have to say about the lower rate of duty.
Unfortunately you cannot claim anything back from what you have paid in the past unless you can prove what oil you have been using etc.
If anyone wants the helpline number it is 08450 109000 and option 3
I will let you know what the outcome is once i get a reply.
Does anyone know the ingrediants for Tesco's Rapeseed oil by any chance just so i can let those thicko's know at hmrc
only joking b4 anyone nominates me
Also the helpline never knew that the accounts are now done at Birmingham so i have give them they're new addressLast edited by stormforce; 27 February 2007, 15:37.
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Originally posted by BludgerI leave the Accounting Document Number blank and put my membership number in the Registration Number box.
The code for SVo is ORR 33545. Use the blank box at the bottom and write Straight vegetable Oil in the space provided. Remember to fill in every line though. If you haven't used any of the other types, then just put '00' for Qty and Duty.
Thats all there is to it. Remember the address has changed to:
HMRC
FAO Account Dept
Two Broadway
Broad Street, Five Ways
Birmingham
B15 1BG
NOT According to my Letter of 5th December (return to) :-
Mineral Oils Relief Centre,
Dobson House,
Regent Centre,
Newcastle,
NE3 3PF
Totally Now !!!!
Hope this Helps NOT......
There's always a Payback .... Your Confused & can't see it Comin !!!!Last edited by Diezel Weazel; 27 February 2007, 15:01.
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Originally posted by BludgerIf you are using Straight Vegetable Oil out of a bottle from Tescos it is 48ppl
If you are producing Bio Diesel the rate is 28ppl
And if you are filtering Waste Vegetable Oil the rate is apparently 28p, but I am not 100% about this, so I have always used 48p. I am trying to find out for certain what the rate is, but C&E seem to say one thing, and then say the opposite the next day!! 48p covers your ar*e.
http://www.hiluxsurf.co.uk/forums/sh...&postcount=207
Provided you can supply HMCE with the actual specs for the brand of SVO you use, to prove that it's within the definition of biofuel, (which all SVO should be), you get the lower rate.
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Originally posted by internetsurferwhat duty do i pay , some are saying 28 ppl others saying 48 ppl - thanks.
If you are producing Bio Diesel the rate is 28ppl
And if you are filtering Waste Vegetable Oil the rate is apparently 28p, but I am not 100% about this, so I have always used 48p. I am trying to find out for certain what the rate is, but C&E seem to say one thing, and then say the opposite the next day!! 48p covers your ar*e.
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how much should i be paying then 28 0r 48 ? , thanks for that help on the form.
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Originally posted by internetsurferneed help guys filling HO 930 form in .What goes in box accounting document number . i'm thinking my membership number but need to be sure.
also these ORR boxes , which 1 is for SVO, (im guessing orr 33541) and what duty do i pay , some are saying 28 ppl others saying 48 ppl - thanks.
The code for SVo is ORR 33545. Use the blank box at the bottom and write Straight vegetable Oil in the space provided. Remember to fill in every line though. If you haven't used any of the other types, then just put '00' for Qty and Duty.
Thats all there is to it. Remember the address has changed to:
HMRC
FAO Account Dept
Two Broadway
Broad Street, Five Ways
Birmingham
B15 1BG
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need help guys filling HO 930 form in .What goes in box accounting document number . i'm thinking my membership number but need to be sure.
also these ORR boxes , which 1 is for SVO, (im guessing orr 33541) and what duty do i pay , some are saying 28 ppl others saying 48 ppl - thanks.
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Originally posted by BludgerVery useful thanks,
Do you think C&E do refunds if they find out you've paid the wrong rate?
. . . . sorry, for a moment there I was in an imaginary world where the government was honest . . . .
Does anyone know the ORR 33 code is for Waste Vegetable Oil on the HO 930 form?
I know Straight Vege oil is ORR 33 545, and there is a different one for BioDiesel, but what is the code for Waste Oil?
Thanks
Dave
hope this is of some help.
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Originally posted by amethystHi guys!, sorry not been around but have been real busy...
anyway, not been using my WVO for a while as not been able to process it as its Gelled up... but i got a call from C&E, and it appears that if you get WVO and run it through a filter that is classed as bio deisel, and you only need to pay 27.1p per L duty....
hope this snippet is of use....
Stu
Do you think C&E do refunds if they find out you've paid the wrong rate?
. . . . sorry, for a moment there I was in an imaginary world where the government was honest . . . .
Does anyone know the ORR 33 code is for Waste Vegetable Oil on the HO 930 form?
I know Straight Vege oil is ORR 33 545, and there is a different one for BioDiesel, but what is the code for Waste Oil?
Thanks
Dave
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