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  • #31
    I bought the 3mm ones off ebay that Albannach posted looking at doing all the interior lights (once Ive got my head around it!) so bought 100.

    So - when I join the pos to neg legs on each row do these get poked through the board and soldered to the copper row underneath?

    The only reason I ask is would this mean that for every joined pair if four rows are running one above the other wont the power run in parallel across the rail therefore linking the rows effectiveley linking the LEDs in a grid?

    Your right when you say its not easy to explain!!!

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    • #32




      Vince, sorry about the dirty carpet in the back
      Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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      • #33
        This is the spec of the LEDs I bought

        LED / Lamp Size:3mm;
        LED Colour:White;
        Viewing Angle:30°;
        Max Voltage Vf:4V;
        Forward Current:20mA;
        Opto Case Style:Radial;
        Case Style:Radial;
        Current If @ Vf:20mA;
        MCD @ 25ma:>16000

        The LED designer from Popeye's post has made it clearer although it started to churn out data regarding resistors?

        Being slightly smaller than the ones on yours Apache would using 5 in series for each row (If space) cause any problems?

        I think Im finally getting there!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Bayside View Post
          This is the spec of the LEDs I bought

          LED / Lamp Size:3mm;
          LED Colour:White;
          Viewing Angle:30°;
          Max Voltage Vf:4V;
          Forward Current:20mA;
          Opto Case Style:Radial;
          Case Style:Radial;
          Current If @ Vf:20mA;
          MCD @ 25ma:>16000

          The LED designer from Popeye's post has made it clearer although it started to churn out data regarding resistors?

          Being slightly smaller than the ones on yours Apache would using 5 in series for each row (If space) cause any problems?

          I think Im finally getting there!
          5 in series will be dim. Stick with 4.

          You know, you can wire them as you thought, in a sort of matrix. The disadvantage is that if any one in a row blows, the other three in the row will blow too as they will be sinking more current.

          You can also wire each one individually with a series resistor, using the ones supplied with your LEDS...
          Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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          • #35
            Do you know what.....

            I think Ive finally got it!!

            Ill go with the matrix style set up as the last thing I want is for it to wind up dim.

            Ill let you know how I get on!

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            • #36
              Good. Try 4 in series, and connect it to 12V, just to check your method. Then just add LEDS in parallel sets of 4.

              A matrix isn't the most elegant way to do it, but as they are current devices, they'll share current quite happily - unless one blows, which then means the in that row have to carry a third more current to satisfy the others in the chain. I suppose it's failsafe!
              Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Apache View Post




                These pics have just inspired me to have a go! I have a led festoon bulb in the back of my 2.4 and it's nowhere near as bright as your ones.

                Thanks,
                Rob.

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                • #38
                  Ive changed my mind & think they look rubbish, i would'nt want them in my truck.
                  Last edited by si tate; 27 January 2011, 00:24.
                  If its not broke don't fix it.

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                  • #39
                    They certianly light up the inside! you could hold a premier league football match in there definatly doing this as i've mostly gutted the inside so now's the time, (love the carefull placeing of the multi-meter for that "expert at work" look
                    Too young to die and too old to give a toss

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by POPEYE View Post
                      They certianly light up the inside! you could hold a premier league football match in there definatly doing this as i've mostly gutted the inside so now's the time, (love the carefull placeing of the multi-meter for that "expert at work" look
                      That was just me figuring out what the hell Toyota did to make the rear door switch work! Both lines are at +12V when the tailgate is closed, and one goes to 0V when the tailgate is open - and there's a separate earth too.

                      As someone who's done a fair bit of electronics design, its not the first way of doing it that sprung to mind - but I suppose it's logical in an automotive electrics way!
                      Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by POPEYE View Post
                        They certianly light up the inside! you could hold a premier league football match in there definatly doing this as i've mostly gutted the inside so now's the time, (love the carefull placeing of the multi-meter for that "expert at work" look
                        www.amcbs.webeden.co.uk www.xjrestorations.co.uk

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                        • #42
                          Not having played with LED's since the mid 90's do these super bright LED's
                          give off any heat as such ?

                          And whats the current draw of 3 rows of 4 compared to standard lamp ?

                          Just curious........

                          How about one of these in there as well.......don't ask how i found this....



                          The gay mans chandelier.......
                          Remember arrows are silent.....................
                          Don't forget to tell everyone its indestructable as seen on top gear.......

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                          • #43
                            paul ffs i have to ask
                            how did you find that?
                            is it your photo or a google pic?

                            eather way your a strange pot aint ya
                            am not die lex sick its you that cant read mate

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Paul1566 View Post
                              do these super bright LED's
                              give off any heat as such ?
                              No

                              Originally posted by Paul1566 View Post
                              And whats the current draw of 3 rows of 4 compared to standard lamp ?
                              About 1/5th, the way I've configured mine.
                              Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by JUDWAK View Post
                                paul ffs i have to ask
                                how did you find that?
                                is it your photo or a google pic?

                                eather way your a strange pot aint ya
                                Just typed in chandelier......... worst bit was when google opened the image, in the background was men doing stuff...eeeerggghhhh!!!!!!
                                Remember arrows are silent.....................
                                Don't forget to tell everyone its indestructable as seen on top gear.......

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