Major flaw with the new GT-R

[darkdezigns]

And added £10k to the price of the car.

No such thing as a free lunch, and this is why similar performing Porkers and Ferraris cost twice as much.

but go back to the earlier gtrs this hasnt ever been an issue,r33 gtr gearbox has been proved time and time again to handle upto and beyound 1000bhp

[logey79]

And added £10k to the price of the car.

No such thing as a free lunch, and this is why similar performing Porkers and Ferraris cost twice as much.

what is the point in supplying the thing if the transmission isn't up to the task. you can say "well, he shouldn't have done this, that and the other" but that is exactly what a petrol head wants to do with a high performance car and the type of person that these cars are aimed at, otherwise they'd have speed limiters at 70mph too. i don't think i'm that wrong in saying that someone buying this car has the right for it to not self-destruct so quickly after using one of its features.

[gwh200]

and i do remember that things like (older) back axles from jags and ford transits were the prefered modus operandi for drag racers , as they were very strong...and a transit back axle isnt a premium product...although after ploughing through that nissan forum, the guy sounds a bit of a wazzock

[Apache]

i don't think i'm that wrong in saying that someone buying this car has the right for it to not self-destruct so quickly after using one of its features.

I agree with you *if* the feature was designed to do what he did, as much as he did, but I'm sure I read somewhere in the thread that NISSAN say its only to be used to rock the vehicle in snow. (that might be a cop out by Nissan for selling a pup of a gearbox - but it IS there advice whatever)

Would we say Toyota were at fault if someone ignored warnings to not use 4wd on dry tarmac? Or would they be chastised for ignoring the manufacturers instructions? There's a button there after all...

I agree with GWH. He sounds like a cock.

AND while I'm in rant mode, it looks like its been designed by a class of 14 year old boys. No style, no class. Built to appeal to the GTA player (and probably driven like one too!)

[gwh200]

i got fed up about half way through it..the obese pie eating ,married to his sister woods dweller(although that may be a bit harsh) sounds as if it is was all deserved

[logey79]

ok, but as vince mentioned earlier, the modern engine management/computer should detect this sort of thing and override if its going to kill the car. we're not talking 15-20 year old technology here as is the case with our old toyotas and the 4wd use on road.

the guy's obviously a din though. i don't think anyone could argue that.

[Apache]

ok, but as vince mentioned earlier, the modern engine management/computer should detect this sort of thing and override if its going to kill the car.

Thats probably what the button is for though!! Turning it off probably removes the computers ability to interfere, which is why Nissan tells you not to, especially if your name is Bubba or Billy Bob, Bobby Bob, Freddy Bob or indeed anything with 'Bob' after it.

[Predictable Bob]

especially if your name is Bubba or Billy Bob, Bobby Bob, Freddy Bob or indeed anything with 'Bob' after it.

Oi !

Don't you oppress me !!!!!

[AndyLala]

This is their launch control right?

BMW M3 exactly the same... do it three times... no warranty...
Its in the manual, and you have read it, right?

Skyline exactly the same...

it does 0 - 60 in 3.4 seconds... and you HAVE to do that three or four times a day of course... I know I would... that why I drive my shed... 'cos it won't.....

you just have to laugh...

[Apache]

So what we're saying is that the car isn't REALLY capable of that 0-60 time. It's advertising man's dream to pull in suckers.

Just like a Ferrari F50 isn't capable of 0-60 in 2 seconds (unless Ferrari tweak the maps, and provide a button to allow you to do it 3 times before the gearbox detonates)

See what I'm saying?

The real world fact is that for real, RELIABLE performance you need to pay supercar money - or get a Dialynx Quattro . Whereas, if you want to do it for £40k, be prepared to have the car in the garage every week.

[24Seven]

i got fed up about half way through it..the obese pie eating ,married to his sister woods dweller(although that may be a bit harsh) sounds as if it is was all deserved

Don't sit on the fence, tell us what you really mean

[darkdezigns]

So what we're saying is that the car isn't REALLY capable of that 0-60 time. It's advertising man's dream to pull in suckers.

Just like a Ferrari F50 isn't capable of 0-60 in 2 seconds (unless Ferrari tweak the maps, and provide a button to allow you to do it 3 times before the gearbox detonates)

See what I'm saying?

The real world fact is that for real, RELIABLE performance you need to pay supercar money - or get a Dialynx Quattro . Whereas, if you want to do it for £40k, be prepared to have the car in the garage every week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRWHZqXM9Kk
plz mate do some research first(no going into one here lol,),but ive have loved these cars for years,your missing the point,i know u dont like them,but the earlier skylines happily produce alot of power without the probs,the members on that site are unhappy,and i would be too,they have come from previous skylines that can eat most supercars for breakfast,yes i know you dont like them,but plz mate,they cars are a car legend(i know u hate the fact),but it's true,yes they are ugly,but the whole point of them going faster than a supercar,hence they aint happy,and i wouldnt be either

[BUSHWHACKER]

I think it may be something to do with Renault. They own part of Nissan so it could be that they're not producing top quality parts any more.

Example: Primera Door Lock before 2001. £26
Primera Door Lock after 2002 £6, taken straight from the Laguna.

[BUSHWHACKER]

And added £10k to the price of the car.

No such thing as a free lunch, and this is why similar performing Porkers and Ferraris cost twice as much.

Agreed, but its always a tricky area providing a warranty on very high performance cars, most of the cars will at some point get driven in the manner they were built for and then they break!
Remember Clarkson doing a full throttle start in a Ferrari and saying Ferrari wont like this, maybe this is the same for the GTR. Then I would ask why can it be done if it will damage the car???

[surfenstein]

i think its a simple case of the wazook not reading the instruction manual properly.it was written in black and white not to turn off the vdc.so hes only got himself to blame and lets face it there are way to many electronics in vehicles nowadays.whatever happened to a gearbox with a proper manual shift,what was wrong with the old gearbox the one that could handle 1000hp if it worked and was proven why change it,way to many driver aids in cars today,go back ten years and give them a car without traction control and see how good a driver they are then.sort the men out from the boys