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[Tiger]

Just on another slight sidetrack, whereabouts, if you don't mind me asking, is the problem area or bottleneck? Is it merely the volume of data being transferred per week/month, searches impacting db performance, other limits or restrictions? What is causing most load and/or performance issues? (Other than VB).

Vb works fine on a site about 20 times the size of this

[Tiger]

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Here are some statistics from the web site in question:
Site has been Up since Jan 2008
Total Visitors 37
Total Hits 169

IE (Internet Explorer) V7 users 26
IE (Internet Explorer) V6 users 3
IE (Internet Explorer) V4 users 5
Netscape Navigator V6 users 3

35 English
1 Spanish
1 Unknown

You must be American, after the big fight against Netscape and Microsoft, Americans got very anti IE were as Europe and Asia are the biggest users of IE as all PC’s sold here come with IE pre installed and every one is used to using it at work and most IT Administrators will not upgrade due to licensing restrictions.

We all agree IE is not the best but as business decides we go with the majority of users and that is IE in the UK.

In order of the voted best browsers

1st Opera
2nd FireFox (Mozilla)
3rd IE

Here are some statistics from another site:
Total Visitors 812
Total Hits 3158

IE (Internet Explorer) V7 users 125
IE (Internet Explorer) V6 users 393
IE (Internet Explorer) V5 users 2
IE (Internet Explorer) V4 users 150
Netscape Navigator V6 users 54
Netscape Navigator V2 users 1
Opera 5up users 11

679 English
1 Spanish
21 Polish
1 Indonesian
34 Unknown

Pay your money if you wan't to poke yor nose in round here

[MattF]

Pay your money if you wan't to poke yor nose in round here

I'm still trying to figure out what the point of his 'information' post was.

[MattF]

Vb works fine on a site about 20 times the size of this

Yup. But I'm a nerd/geek don't ya know. Works fine and works well don't always mean the same thing. Never diddled with VB due to it being proprietary, but it does have an unenviable reputation as being somewhat cumbersome, if the info I've heard is to be believed.

[Tiger]

Yup. But I'm a nerd/geek don't ya know. Works fine and works well don't always mean the same thing. Never diddled with VB due to it being proprietary, but it does have an unenviable reputation as being somewhat cumbersome, if the info I've heard is to be believed.

Now you have just gone over my head again,

any chance you want to talk about building houses

[OzTec]

I'm still trying to figure out what the point of his 'information' post was.

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You commented that the site should be coded for Moz as not many people use IE the point of the last post was to show IE is being used more than any other browser for this business. Moz is better but not widely used as IE in UK…

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[MattF]

You commented that the site should be coded for Moz as not many people use IE the point of the last post was to show IE is being used more than any other browser for this business. Moz is better but not widely used as IE in UK…

No I did not. I pointed out the fact that the HTML code was absolutely screwed, which it is. Any valid HTML/XML page is not coded for any browser, per se, but coding a webpage which will only display correctly in IE in quirks mode is limiting accessibility drastically. A properly coded page will display correctly in *any* browser.

Do read what I actually write in future. I really do so hate it when people start interpreting what I write.

[OzTec]

No I did not. I pointed out the fact that the HTML code was absolutely screwed, which it is. Any valid HTML/XML page is not coded for any browser, per se, but coding a webpage which will only display correctly in IE in quirks mode is limiting accessibility drastically. A properly coded page will display correctly in *any* browser.

Do read what I actually write in future. I really do so hate it when people start interpreting what I write.

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When someone with little knowledge of coding FRAMED IE pages like your self has no clue about what they are talking about this two is a problem.
Any one with some knowledge will know coded FRAMED IE does not work in any browser other than IE.
If you took the code back to its main source Adobe Go Live CS2 you will see that there are no errors when checking IE format, change it to Opera format and yes I agree, but it was designed for IE and IE only for UK users

[MattF]

What the chuff are you talking about?

what does this mean?

with little knowledge of coding FRAMED IE pages

If it only displays correctly in IE, and this is the last time I will say this, IT IS NOT TRULY VALID HTML. But pray, do tell what a 'framed IE page' is?

[MattF]

Oh, and whilst you're at it, why don't you go and tell the W3C that they have no idea what constitutes HTML validity too.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ww...Inline&group=0

[yoshie]

I think you won Matt
Did I mention I have sockets up to 54mm

[OzTec]

What the chuff are you talking about?

what does this mean?




If it only displays correctly in IE, and this is the last time I will say this, IT IS NOT TRULY VALID HTML. But pray, do tell what a 'framed IE page' is?

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Back in the 80s when Netscape were taking Microsoft to court Microsoft came up with FRAMED (Framset) and IFRAMED pages which had the effect your having problems with Moz and that is Microsoft wanted and has dominate the WWW side of the internet as only IE could display and still only display FRAMED pages correctly.
This is why there are more plug-ins for IE than any other browser and these cause security issues.
As discovered with Hotmail when Microsoft bought them out.

You will find American web sites are trying to get away from using FRAMED and using CSS pages but using IE in UK means you have the best of viewing both worlds but as before security is a issue.

[MattF]

I think you won Matt
Did I mention I have sockets up to 54mm

I seem to remember you mentioning those sockets on the odd occasion or two.


p.s: I'm still waiting for him to reply with frameset. Must be a thick reference book he's leafing through to take this long. Oops, no, sorry, I forgot, I don't know what those are, do I.

[MattF]

You will find American web sites are trying to get away from using FRAMED and using CSS pages but using IE in UK means you have the best of viewing both worlds but as before security is a issue.

So literally, you are going to spend all night poorly quoting text taken from random websites because you have no ferkin idea what you're talking about? My, what an eventful night this is going to be.

[OzTec]

So literally, you are going to spend all night poorly quoting text taken from random websites because you have no ferkin idea what you're talking about? My, what an eventful night this is going to be.

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If as quoted by YOU I’m quoting text from websites and a extra large reference book I am correct in what I am saying as yes this information is their and you are small minded not to come back with a more intelligent quote than “FERKIN” and you can only code in HTML/XML (can you code at all?(think not)) says it all. All the best in your small minded world have a good one……………………………………………………………………… ………………

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