Poo!!

[Chillitt]

Keep you hands off my mini digger!! You can mix cement!!

worth a try...

[Linda]

sooner the extension is built, the sooner we can sell and move to a place with more space where 4x4Toys can be officially resurrected and St Tony can contiune his good work for surfs.

[Apache]

In the local village climate with 1 illegal and 1 just legal business causing MASSIVE problems for the village there is likely to be huge outcry against PP for the business here - even if temporary, restricted to us etc. SO for now we'll tell them that come end Nov (when current customers are served) we will cease running the business and TOny will concentrate on building the extension. If he happens to fix a couple of trucks for "friends" noone can prove anything. Then in the new year we'll readdress matters and almost definately seek some help from those who have offered.

Goddammit!

Reading this thread has made me so angry!!!

There you are, trying to build a small business, which lets face it, brings money IN to the local community, thus improving quality life in the community through spin off work for the local MOT garage etc with minimal impact (when I've been there, the place is hard to spot, and if you didn't know what a Surf looked like you'd never find it) as your business is not actually IN the village AND on a 'no through road'!

What is WRONG with these people?! They were either born with the silver spoon so dont appreciate that people need to earn an honest crust, or retired / bored stay at home mums who have bu66er all else to do but stare out of their french windows blankly all day!

You guys stick to your guns! I hope the small minded selfish idiot who's started all this WILL read this and suffer some sort of conscience pang. They obviously dont remember what its like to WORK for a living!

[Apache]

yes - absolutely. If anything we'll increase this side of the business, especially with the dealership deal with TJM.

Mmmmm, I might replace my rusty Pro Comps with TJMs next time the money fairy allows it!

[sledge]

Goddammit!

Reading this thread has made me so angry!!!

There you are, trying to build a small business, which lets face it, brings money IN to the local community, thus improving quality life in the community through spin off work for the local MOT garage etc with minimal impact (when I've been there, the place is hard to spot, and if you didn't know what a Surf looked like you'd never find it) as your business is not actually IN the village AND on a 'no through road'!

What is WRONG with these people?! They were either born with the silver spoon so dont appreciate that people need to earn an honest crust, or retired / bored stay at home mums who have bu66er all else to do but stare out of their french windows blankly all day!

You guys stick to your guns! I hope the small minded selfish idiot who's started all this WILL read this and suffer some sort of conscience pang. They obviously dont remember what its like to WORK for a living!

well said that man

[That Ruddy Squirrel]

Goddammit!

Reading this thread has made me so angry!!!

There you are, trying to build a small business, which lets face it, brings money IN to the local community, thus improving quality life in the community through spin off work for the local MOT garage etc with minimal impact (when I've been there, the place is hard to spot, and if you didn't know what a Surf looked like you'd never find it) as your business is not actually IN the village AND on a 'no through road'!

What is WRONG with these people?! They were either born with the silver spoon so dont appreciate that people need to earn an honest crust, or retired / bored stay at home mums who have bu66er all else to do but stare out of their french windows blankly all day!

You guys stick to your guns! I hope the small minded selfish idiot who's started all this WILL read this and suffer some sort of conscience pang. They obviously dont remember what its like to WORK for a living!

I couldn't have put it better myself

[plumb bob]

You should take a leaf from the governments book when they need to get planning issues through, they issue plans that are so outragous and totally offencive to all, that by the time the locals have formed committies and talked to thepress and stressed themselves out fighting it, when they downgrade plans to what they realistically wanted in the first place, the locals think they have won a battle and accept it.

A case in point is the 5th? runway at heathrow, evrybody complained, so the gov issued plans to put a new airport on the Hoo peninsular, which is mostly farm land and a registered nature reserve.
The plans would have seen the total destruction of a least 5 villages including listed buildings, 12th century churches, a 10th century castle ( currently owned by Jules Holland) and the aforementioned nature reserve, let alone all the people that would be made homeless.

As you can imagine this caused the locals to erupt into action, forming committies, lobbying MP's etc etc.

This went on for about 2 years, property prices tumbled, and people were left in limbo, then lo and behold the gov changed plans to another venue, which in comarrison seems the better option, even though a lot of people will be affected, it's the better option.

Sorry for the length of this post, but by now you get the drift, apply for PP for something totally outragous and make it very publc, then sit back and wait for the locals to do their thing.

[darkdezigns]

Yeah, we can still sort you out, will arrange something later.

ok mate cheers,any ideas of prices?

[Sancho]

my wife is a planner and not a "jumped up bureaucrat",

Sorry, I meant they seem like jumped-up bureaucrats. I work as a consultant both to developers trying to get planning permission and local authorities trying to work out what they should do about giving it. Most people think planners are these evil people who are trying to stop everyone from doing anything whereas they are more bound by a strict set of rules that they have to abide by but most will try to help if they can, within the rules.

[Woodzie]

sooner the extension is built, the sooner we can sell and move to a place with more space where 4x4Toys can be officially resurrected and St Tony can contiune his good work for surfs.

Will you be moving further west?

[TonyN]

Goddammit..................

I agree, I've felt for a while that a lot of people in the village don't really want it to be a proper village, with its own community, shops, buinesses and things going on and people about during the day. They are trying to turn the place into just another socially dead snobby housing estate, where everyone goes to work during the day, and cuts their grass at weekends and tells everyone how much their house is worth!

Very depressing thought!!

[poppy986]

Cheers mate will land line you in the week for a chat , your comment regarding
the '' village'' life is spot on , as you know I travel around the country there
are so many new build so call villages being built but they are all brought
by the commuter types that drive there range rover sports to the station
and put nothing into the comumity or want to then moan about every one
else ! all Stepford wife look a likes .

Have to calm down this time of the day ha ha it's me age !
Said talk later all the best

Chris

[da SLUG man]

i'll see if i can find out from my cousins Mrs what permissions she had to get... they run an equestrian school and a building company from their farm.

[dieselboy]

Had a visit from the council planning guy this week, investigating claims of various breaches of planning by me running a business from our residencial property!!

Just to stick the knife in they've also done us for keeping horses and building stables and an arena 'for a possible equestian business' on agricultural land, as well as the buisness parking trucks on it.

In the current climate in the village its unlikely I'm gonna get planning to run a car repair buisness here, and I don't make anyway near enough money to rent a unit yet (plus would rather be at home anyway)

As the horses being at home are far more important to us than the business, we're going to 'temporarily stop working on 4x4's officially' so we have less hassle getting the horses planning sorted out, as this will give the busybodys in the village less to complain about, as we are allowed to graze horses, but not do anything with them, so just the arena needs planning permission, and change of use, but the rest of the fields are OK.

Also we have nearly got everthing ready for building the house extension, so I was going to be putting 4x4toys on 'hold' anyway while we rebuild our house, so its not such a big deal short term.

But before lots of people get to worried about their trucks, it not the end of the world, they can't stop me working on my trucks or for 'friends from the forum with cash', it just can't be official buisness work.

I'll try and spend a couple of days a week doing trucks, the rest will be house building, so please except apologies in advance, as you'll probably find lots of notice will be required for fixing trucks for a year or so, and we want to try and get a little more geared up for selling 4x4 stuff on-line to make a bit of money.

Thanks.

your not running a business though. you occasionally fix your friends trucks for them. nothing wrong there. i sometimes help my friends by doing stuff for them where i live. tell them to stick it.
as long as your not seen to take any money, which you never do.. surely they cant stop you fixing your friends cars? if they went as far as that then what would they say about fixing your own car?

[JUDWAK]

sorry to hear about all this TonyN you do what you go to do
if you was in yorkshire you would not have this problem (i would rent you land to use)
carnt understand this goverment
your only trying to make something worth while and your fellow (villagers) complain about you its wrong
we had the same thing complaints about our workshop (so we put a unit over it) 40ft by 40ft only cost 12 grand from a place called blueline buildings (import from USA) 6 grand to bye and we put it up ower selfs cost 4 grand for floor and 2 grand for hire of tools (2.cherry pickers mainly)
dirt cheap storm proof buildings
i can find out there number if you like

i hope you get it all resolved TonyN
i realy do



or hold a surf meeting in your village TonyN