Tailgate Wont Open And Window Wont Work Please Help

[shakeytits]

Hi Everyone, Im Now The Prowd Owner Of A 1992 Ssrx Surf And The Tail Gate Wont Open And The Window Will Not Go Up Or Down , It Wont Work With The Key, Ive Taken The Panel Off The Rear Inside And Tried To Open The Door Manually But There Is Too Much Resistance, The Rear Wiper Woerks Fine And Parks Correctly Please Help I Will Be Very Gratefull,, Regards Paul

[StevenN]

Hi Everyone, Im Now The Prowd Owner Of A 1992 Ssrx Surf And The Tail Gate Wont Open And The Window Will Not Go Up Or Down , It Wont Work With The Key, Ive Taken The Panel Off The Rear Inside And Tried To Open The Door Manually But There Is Too Much Resistance, The Rear Wiper Woerks Fine And Parks Correctly Please Help I Will Be Very Gratefull,, Regards Paul

Have you checked that the window lock button on the drivers door panel is off?

[shakeytits]

Have you checked that the window lock button on the drivers door panel is off?

YES THE WINDOW LOCK BUTTON IS OFF ON THE DRIVERS DOOR , , THANKS

[Tallyman]

Just a guess but sounds like the rear window "down" relay has failed. Use the search function as there's plenty of threads about this.

[shakeytits]

Just a guess but sounds like the rear window "down" relay has failed. Use the search function as there's plenty of threads about this.

THANKS TALLYMAN

[kcsl]

I've also had all sorts of problems with my 2nd gen rear window - seems to be one of the more common problems.

The machanics prevent the tailgate latch from popping up if the rear glass isn't all the way down, so untill you fix the window, you ain't getting that gate down. (this is because the glass will snap if you opened the gate with the glass up - it can't support it's own weight)

First thing, the window won't move if the rear wiper isn't parked correctly.
Try operating the rear wiper a couple of times to see if that helps.

If you remove the panel to get at the gubbins (techno talk) you can see the two wires that go to the motor (theres a two pin connecter in the wireing loom near the motor that you can seperate) . You can shove 12v direct into the motor through the connector to see if it moves. Needless to say, if you do this and the window tries to move up even more, reverse the wires.
This will show if the motor and the machanics are all ok.

If this works, then you have either a faulty relay box (there are posts around here on how to make repairs to it - Maplins sell the replacement relays but you need to be reasonably handy with a soldering iron to fix this), or one or more broken wires - probably in the bundle that enter the lower part of the tail-gate from the main chassis.

I have a dodgy wire in the bundle to the drivers door that means I can't use the internal rear window switch, or any of the other power window controls for that matter if the door is open. As you slowly close the door, you suddenly reach a point where everything works - a job for a warmer day tho'.

Once you get it working, you need to lubricate the window slides - again, posts around here on how to do it. In brief, Halfords sell a yellow can of silicone spray. With the window up, you in the back, and the panel removed, clean out the window slides as best you can and then spray in the silicone.

You will have to do this periodically - with mine it seems to be every 3 or 4 months but I do use the rear window a lot. It works great on the other windows as well.

Hope that helps,
Joe

[shakeytits]

I've also had all sorts of problems with my 2nd gen rear window - seems to be one of the more common problems.

The machanics prevent the tailgate latch from popping up if the rear glass isn't all the way down, so untill you fix the window, you ain't getting that gate down. (this is because the glass will snap if you opened the gate with the glass up - it can't support it's own weight)

First thing, the window won't move if the rear wiper isn't parked correctly.
Try operating the rear wiper a couple of times to see if that helps.

If you remove the panel to get at the gubbins (techno talk) you can see the two wires that go to the motor (theres a two pin connecter in the wireing loom near the motor that you can seperate) . You can shove 12v direct into the motor through the connector to see if it moves. Needless to say, if you do this and the window tries to move up even more, reverse the wires.
This will show if the motor and the machanics are all ok.

If this works, then you have either a faulty relay box (there are posts around here on how to make repairs to it - Maplins sell the replacement relays but you need to be reasonably handy with a soldering iron to fix this), or one or more broken wires - probably in the bundle that enter the lower part of the tail-gate from the main chassis.

I have a dodgy wire in the bundle to the drivers door that means I can't use the internal rear window switch, or any of the other power window controls for that matter if the door is open. As you slowly close the door, you suddenly reach a point where everything works - a job for a warmer day tho'.

Once you get it working, you need to lubricate the window slides - again, posts around here on how to do it. In brief, Halfords sell a yellow can of silicone spray. With the window up, you in the back, and the panel removed, clean out the window slides as best you can and then spray in the silicone.

You will have to do this periodically - with mine it seems to be every 3 or 4 months but I do use the rear window a lot. It works great on the other windows as well.

Hope that helps,
Joe

MANY THANKS JOE

[shakeytits]

MANY THANKS JOE

IVE STRIPED THE REAR DOOR TODAY AND FOUND THE FAULT AS YOU SAID ITS THE REAR WINDOW MOTOR? ANY IDEAR HOW MUCH THEY ARE AND WHERE TO PURCHASE ONE? REGARDS PAUL

[Tallyman]

Apparently they use the same motor in other toyota's. Check or remove the motor and try the local s****pers. I believe it's the nearside motor off cars like Celica's that fit. Again, use the search function as it has all been covered before.

[shakeytits]

Apparently they use the same motor in other toyota's. Check or remove the motor and try the local s****pers. I believe it's the nearside motor off cars like Celica's that fit. Again, use the search function as it has all been covered before.

THANKS MIKE G

[Koi]

yeah Corrolla passenger door etc, if you need to get from dealers don't ask for one for a Surf, double the price.

[TOYMOTA]

My rear window motor went a couple of weeks ago,went down the s****py and got mine off 5door toyota corolla g or h reg i think cost me £10 and they are exactly the same motors as the surfs.

[shakeytits]

THANKS MIKE G

THANKS TO EVERYONE THE PROB IS NOW SOLVED,, ONCE AGAIN THANKS, JUST GOT TO SORT MY ENGINE OUT NOW , ANY SUGGESTIONS ANYONE?