Veg Oil (again sorry)

[coastguard999]

I know this thread has been repeated over and again through the forum. But I think it needs to be added to the FAQ's as I couldn't find a straight answer so here goes!

Can I really put (about) half vegetable oil and half diesel into my totally unmodified surf 2.4?

I know about the Gov't forms etc, but just need to know a simple yes or no to the modifications

[Morr]

I know this thread has been repeated over and again through the forum. But I think it needs to be added to the FAQ's as I couldn't find a straight answer so here goes!

Can I really put (about) half vegetable oil and half diesel into my totally unmodified surf 2.4?

I know about the Gov't forms etc, but just need to know a simple yes or no to the modifications

If you can't find a straight answer, then you probably haven't read more than a few of the previous posts on this topic.
As you say it has been repeated over, and over, and over. And oh look here we go yet again!

Your exact question has been answered again, and again and again.

One of the main reasons stuff can be hard to find is when people constantly repeat exactly the same question, leading to numerous threads covering one topic, resulting in bits of info attached to each thread rather than keep all the useful info, tips, experiences etc together on one thread where anyone can find them.

Re-answering a question which has been asked/answered/asked/answered again and again and again just helps bury the good information on prior threads, far better if you cannot find information on a topic with a prior thread, which does not answer your query, to add your question to the prior thread.

[dirtydog]

was that yes Morr?

hows the FAQs your working on coming along?

[Morr]

was that yes Morr?

hows the FAQs your working on coming along?

I've done a bit to improve page load times and other slight tweaking, but haven't uploaded the changes yet, other than that I've about 20 minor items I've spotted need altering slightly, but have have very little input otherwise.
I'll have to try find some time to get back to it....

[coastguard999]

far better if you cannot find information on a topic with a prior thread, which does not answer your query, to add your question to the prior thread.

Right.. sorry (newbie)

Please feel free to delete this thread and I'll post my question on what seems to be the most hopeful of previous threads

once again sorry

Sam

[Morr]

Also on the topic of using vegoil......

I've always recommended that any potential convert should research the issue fully, and satisfy themselves as to whether they wish to use it, and how they wish to use it.
We all post our experiences of it and this helps others make an informed decision.
Its important that any such decision be an informed one, and not just accepted glibly, as after all you are about to use a product that is not designed as a fuel, is not approved by the manufacturer of your vehicle for use, will doubtless invalidate any existing warranty, and has not been extensively scientifically tested.
What testing does exist is largely done by people such as ourselves, so details can be a little biased and potentially incorrect. This should be considered as a small scale yet worldwide experiment, as in reality that's what it is, an experiment, at least until such time as the auto makers approve their engines for such alternate fuels.

Before embarking on such an experiment I always encourage all to fully research the topic themselves, as many here have done as evidenced by the new knowledge and references others have brought.


Its amazing also how 2 years ago with little financial gain to be made from using veggie only a few were prepared to try, but these few appeared to undertake the necessary research in the interest of environmental concerns, now with the immediate cost savings to be had, many are prepared to grasp at anything to save fuel costs, without the same degree of research.

Whilst I'm happy to see (and help) people make the switch (whatever their motive may be), I'd like to see them attempt to do it in an informed manner.

[kazam401]

Also on the topic of using vegoil......

I've always recommended that any potential convert should research the issue fully, and satisfy themselves as to whether they wish to use it, and how they wish to use it.
We all post our experiences of it and this helps others make an informed decision.
Its important that any such decision be an informed one, and not just accepted glibly, as after all you are about to use a product that is not designed as a fuel, is not approved by the manufacturer of your vehicle for use, will doubtless invalidate any existing warranty, and has not been extensively scientifically tested.
What testing does exist is largely done by people such as ourselves, so details can be a little biased and potentially incorrect. This should be considered as a small scale yet worldwide experiment, as in reality that's what it is, an experiment, at least until such time as the auto makers approve their engines for such alternate fuels.

Before embarking on such an experiment I always encourage all to fully research the topic themselves, as many here have done as evidenced by the new knowledge and references others have brought.


Its amazing also how 2 years ago with little financial gain to be made from using veggie only a few were prepared to try, but these few appeared to undertake the necessary research in the interest of environmental concerns, now with the immediate cost savings to be had, many are prepared to grasp at anything to save fuel costs, without the same degree of research.

Whilst I'm happy to see (and help) people make the switch (whatever their motive may be), I'd like to see them attempt to do it in an informed manner.

I fully agree with your comments Morr and as I am about to go the veg way I will be gradually introducing it just to see how the motor runs. I have no intention of just slapping a 50% veg/derv mix in it will be a few litres at a time.
I think everyone who is thinking of going the veg way fully apprieciates all the comments from the experience veg burners (i know I do)

Cheers Morr

[dirtydog]

Exactly right - I have been reading about it for a while and while useful the most helpful stuff is from Surf owners with the same engine etc.

My Mum said to me "it wont smell will it?"

[da SLUG man]

i've got a squeeking noise coming from somewhere on my car...

anyone know what it is?

[Chillitt]

its a squeeking noise

[paulh]

mouse !

[kitesurf_phil]

With all due respect to the longer serving members of the forum, has anyone noticed how cumbersome the search engine has become? It has started rejecting all words of four letters or less making searches for items such as ECT, EGR, SVO, WVO, and even FAQ difficult. This becomes a problem due to the fact that we abbreviate words i.e. Diff, 4WD, 2WD, veg oil.



Nigel did get the minimum word length for a search reduced to three letters, at one time, but maybe this has gone back to default during an upgrade?

Newbies need time to get used to the peculiarities of this forum that us older members take for granted. We need to remember how keen we were to ask questions when we started looking for a Surf or when we first got our Surfs.

Maybe we should use the chat room to chat rather than the threads?

[Bushman]

Newbies need time to get used to the peculiarities of this forum that us older members take for granted. We need to remember how keen we were to ask questions when we started looking for a Surf or when we first got our Surfs.

Maybe we should use the chat room to chat rather than the threads?

Hear hear! be kind to newbies (us!)

If it adds anything to the discussion, I put in 20 litres of unleaded before I realised it. Filled up with diesel and it ran just fine. Was just as expensive though, maybe I *will* try cooking oil next time...

[Linda]

I know this thread has been repeated over and again through the forum. But I think it needs to be added to the FAQ's as I couldn't find a straight answer so here goes!

Can I really put (about) half vegetable oil and half diesel into my totally unmodified surf 2.4?

I know about the Gov't forms etc, but just need to know a simple yes or no to the modifications

Ok - a straight answer. Yes it can but as MORR said research it properly on the net first and make the decision for yourself (ie. Non of us want to be shot if you are the one person it dont work for.)

On the search engine - I agree with Phil, I use it regularly but there are so many posts on every topic now that you get pages of replies to each search and it is often hard to find what you want. We should try to improve the FAQ section with some more of the common questions.

How about if you see a thread that should be in FAQ PM Koi, Lucky or TonyN to make it FAQ??


Oh yeah - be nice to newbies!!!

[baw]

Biodiesel stickers

Calling all like-minded biofuel persons! We should all be driving around with these stickers on

http://www.needasticker.com/biodiesel.htm

Help publicise the cause and get vegoils/biodiesel sold at the pumps!
(no I have no vested interest in the sale of the stickers!)

Marcus