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  • #16
    cut the bulkhead/floor

    or just buy a LC80!
    (i have 2 available)
    http://www.4x4xfaz.co.uk

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by lord lucan View Post
      why bother just buy a landcruiser with lockers and all

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      • #18
        Dont take any notice of these numptys ,It will fit. As vince said it will need some heavy modification to the (bulkhead maybe depends how you do it.),floorpan, suspension and brakes.Im gonna be doing a straight six swap into a surf in the near future,using the 2H 4.0 OHV DIESEL ENGINE. allthough this will be in a 1st gen,so i would suggest you uprate the torsion bars, and dampers up front,the surf uses four pot calipers but i would upgrade to bigger discs and calipers from a 3rd gen,(again these wont be a straight swap,as the 3rd gen runs on 16" rims) and uprate the rear springs.You will need to fabricate new front and rear prop shafts,engine mounts,gearbox x member,modify the sump ( i dont need too as the 1st gen is running leaf springs and has a massive lift.),rad mounts, if you keep it in the front.One idea im toying with is an electric water pump and fitting the rad in the rear,using two kenlowe puller fans and modifying the body work with an air scoop and rear vents, this will allow the engine to be fitted forward a good few inches,so that the bulkhead will not need to be modified as much.Lifting the body a few inches will also aid in fitting as this will give you so much more room between the chassis and top of transmission tunnel,hopefully eliminating the need to cut the floorpan about too much.I would say lifting the body at least 3" will give you the room you need.the 2h bellhousing is much bigger than the 2lte bellhousing assuming yours is a 2.4ltr.as for weight theres not a lot in it,they are both cast iron engines,but the gearbox and trans case on the 2h may be smaller than the auto box and trans case on a 2lte but its a lot bulkier and shorter.Again fitting the manual box you will need a pedal box from a manual surf and a clutch master cylinder.,then you will need to mod the floorpan to fit the gear levers and high and low ratio levers.
        Last edited by surfenstein; 22 January 2011, 14:56.
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        • #19
          Again..........
          Originally posted by lord lucan View Post
          why bother just buy a landcruiser with lockers and all

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BUSHWHACKER View Post
            Again..........


            Tis true but some of us like to have unique vehicles.ITS never been done before as far as i know so why not.After all is this thread here to encourage people to do the almost impossible or to completly put them off.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by fazLN130 View Post
              All 60 series, some 70 series and ALL 80 series had 6 cylinder diesel engine.
              60series stopped production in 1989, 80 series stopped in 1997, 70s began production in 1984......... so they are OLD landcruisers, only thing older will be a 40/50 series which used 3.4 litre 4 pot and some 5 pot mercedes diesel engines.

              So "old big Landcruiser" did have 6 cylinder diesels, optimo/ceatano use a Toyota 1HZ 4.2 litre S6 engine.
              So I just went and called a mate who operates coaches in hedge end near Southampton. He has a j plate optimo. It's a four cylinder.
              Non intercooled nothing.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by surfenstein View Post
                Tis true but some of us like to have unique vehicles.ITS never been done before as far as i know so why not.After all is this thread here to encourage people to do the almost impossible or to completly put them off.

                Well, after reading your list of what needs doing, I'm completely put off.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by gwh200 View Post
                  So I just went and called a mate who operates coaches in hedge end near Southampton. He has a j plate optimo. It's a four cylinder.
                  AND WHAT????

                  OP was about fitting a 4.1 turbo diesel out of an optimo, optimo/coasters had 2h and 1h series toyota diesel engines BOTH 6 cylinder.

                  TOYOTA HAS NEVER HAD A 4 CYLINDER DIESEL ENGINE OF THIS SIZE !!!

                  Older optimos were fitted with R series petrol engines too.

                  your "mate" has one with 4pot is has nothing to do with this thread in any way shape or form.
                  http://www.4x4xfaz.co.uk

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by fazLN130 View Post
                    AND WHAT????

                    OP was about fitting a 4.1 turbo diesel out of an optimo, optimo/coasters had 2h and 1h series toyota diesel engines BOTH 6 cylinder.

                    TOYOTA HAS NEVER HAD A 4 CYLINDER DIESEL ENGINE OF THIS SIZE !!!

                    Older optimos were fitted with R series petrol engines too.

                    your "mate" has one with 4pot is has nothing to do with this thread in any way shape or form.
                    I'll take into account, you know a little , and think that means you know everything. Toyota have made engines in conjunction with lots of people for many years. A 4.0 litre straight four normally aspirated diesel, as fitted to light commercials, and R&D with large commercials with hino. This straight four, normally aspirated diesel is an almost carbon copy of early mercedes commercial stuff....and they are nearly 6 inches wider than a surfs engine mounts. the big difference is the way the timing gear is installed.
                    When you get a bit older and know what your talking about boy
                    FEEL FREE TO SHOUT TILL THEN WIND YER NECK IN.
                    Non intercooled nothing.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by gwh200 View Post
                      i'll take into account, you know a little , and think that means you know everything. Toyota have made engines in conjunction with lots of people for many years. A 4.0 litre straight four normally aspirated diesel, as fitted to light commercials, and r&d with large commercials with hino. This straight four, normally aspirated diesel is an almost carbon copy of early mercedes commercial stuff....and they are nearly 6 inches wider than a surfs engine mounts. The big difference is the way the timing gear is installed.
                      When you get a bit older and know what your talking about boy
                      feel free to shout till then wind yer neck in.
                      lmfao.:d: Nice gra.
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                      • #26
                        AND WHAT????

                        OP was about fitting a 4.1 turbo diesel out of an optimo, optimo/coasters had 2h and 1h series toyota diesel engines BOTH 6 cylinder.

                        TOYOTA HAS NEVER HAD A 4 CYLINDER DIESEL ENGINE OF THIS SIZE !!!
                        Older optimos were fitted with R series petrol engines too.

                        your "mate" has one with 4pot is has nothing to do with this thread in any way shape or form.


                        In 1996 toyota introduced the 15B engine this was a 4.1 ltr four pot diesel engine.
                        Last edited by surfenstein; 23 January 2011, 18:40.
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                        • #27
                          If anyone knows where i can lay my hands on the 5 cyl 3.5 ltr 1pz toyota diesel engine,ill bite yer hands off.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by surfenstein View Post
                            If anyone knows where i can lay my hands on the 5 cyl 3.5 ltr 1pz toyota diesel engine,ill bite yer hands off.

                            There's two on E-bay.

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                            • #29
                              I have two optimos at work, a 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder, the 6 cylinder is up for grabs for only 200 quid as the coach have rolled over but the 4 cylinder im only doing a pre mot inspection on.
                              My truck already has 4 inch body lift, up-rated suspension all round, the dash currently sits on a table so bulk head is no problem to get to. Ive got a local company makes alot of propshafts and re-balances all our lorry shafts.
                              Its mainly as my truck has sat in a carpark at work for about 4 months now maybe longer, and i have the chance to use this engine, buying a landcruiser would be easy but would take all of a day. This option is more of a challenge and a project to work on.
                              It doesnt sound like its been done before so im wanting to give it a go.
                              Surfin on the tidal waves of mud!

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                              • #30
                                The six sounds better...but it is I'm sure a bit wider?. As for length, just cur the front off..that sounds lots easier than cutting out the firewall.
                                Non intercooled nothing.

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