Help needed, Loosing faith!!!

[Sancho]

Don't worry about Matt, he's always like that. I'm a fellow ginger and he's even mean to me. Tony has Victor Meldrew as his avatar.....

Anyway, the point on the stat is that if you take it out the flow will be too fast and the coolant won't have time to cool down in the radiator. Assuming it's an auto, it will also lock you out of overdrive until it's heated up and various other things. Put a new one in. I would guess your racecar has a better radiator with no ATF cooler.

The rad caps normally get a hard time when the head goes, so you would do well to stick a new one on and replace the stat before bothering with a new pump. If you're lucky, the new head will have survived being overheated a couple of times.

[fatfires]

Ooooh mummy ...nasty man called me names
dont think so..but there again you did say 10+years mechanic, funny that but the helpfull guys on here that had to explain about thermo dynsamics in the flow characteristics in a deisel engine arnt , but they did make more sence than comparing a racing whatever to a truck, and it would seem you agree
Tip; When someone makes what might be regarded as a sarky comment - perhaps check to see if they might have used a smilie there could be a clue there.
I Am Sorry (you are so damn touchy)
and happy

[fatfires]

Tony has Victor Meldrew as his avatar.....

and?

[Sancho]

and?

That may imply that you are not all that generously spirited in some situations.

[MattF]

You've already been given good advice, and Sancho gave you a decent basic description of how a coolant system actually works, so use that advice and do as suggested.

[fatfires]

That may imply that you are not all that generously spirited in some situations.

as usual acurate...10/10 mate
I suffer fools badly, I think Matts last said it all
and Matt I am soooooo jelous of your 'grumpy b0locks'

[steveo44]

OK bought the surf with the obligatory HG problem.

So
new Head, New head gasket, new head bolts, new radiator, new timing and ancillary bolts later.

I figured its all cured, less than 200 miles after the head swap,

ITS STILL OVER HEATING

After a short, average drive NO more than 20 miles, 60mph (100K) max of 3krpm, and when i stop the over flow bottle is full and over flowong on the floor

That is the only noticable leak, the water is not coming from any where else.

The last 2 things i can think of changing are te Rad cap and Water pump.

I am poretty much skint now, after spending ni on £800 on the fricking thing.

its a 2.4TD btw, 135,000K's well looked after.

loosing my rag with this.

please help.

was the head a new one if so no worrys burb the system if it was 2hand may still have small cracks in while the thermostat is out get some (K-SEAL) take it for a good run with it in if it stops new head if not warter flow restiction try flushing rad ect with rad flush or take it back 2 who done the head i had same trouble and it ended up being the head (soz) but u never know i changed mine running sweet as a nut (squirrel)_haha any way just try the advise everyones giving you

[Daz81]

There was no smilie that would indicate anything other than the rude comment that was used. and your attitude in genereal is rather childish.

How ever being a senior member of another Car forum i know i look like the whinging newbie! and you are the cool senior member putting said newbie in his place.

I dd nothing to provoke your PORK comment and regardless of your views, am open to learn new things about each new vehicle i encounter. Its what makes me a more accomplished mechanically.

ANYHOOW!!


I swapped over to another rad cap last night and the overflow bottle isnt half as bad as it was. Still emmense pressure though and alot of steam.

The truck didnt get to over heat badly it was about 3/4 - 4/4 hot when i noticed and let it cool down.

I tried a pressure test but all the cap inserts we have are the wrong size, (DOH) so couldnt check for any of that.

A new pump/stat was ordered this morning and should be hear for monday/tuesday.

I am supsrised about the stat comment/theory's how ever, im not 1 to say who is right and wrong as we are always learning.

How ever it has always been a belief of mine that it will help keep it cool, My father (also a mechanic runs his garage blah blah etc) said the exact same thing, as did all 3 of the other mechanics i work with. All said they would have tried that and couldnt see the issue, how ever every vehicle has its niggles/difference's im just in a bad mood in genereal, my transit has lasted me 8 years with nothing but servicing and i thought i would treat my self and have spent £800+ and still not got the surf running sweet. saying that im loving the comfort, relative quietness of the motor/road noise. and the little toys. the stock speakers are very very good. even with the heavy MOSH im putting through it,


The cooling system on the Hilux seems very substantial and i would think/hope does a better job of cooling than our race car.

Which has a small almost 1/4 size rad, NO fan, NO stat, No heater. it holds a max of 2.2 litres. the engines is a 2.0 4pot, that revs to 9200rpm, with a CR of 12.7:1. its not like its a non HOT runner. but then the car doesnt weigh a huge amount and has good flow through the rad and around the engine.

I would offer to post up a few pics of the race car up but doubt its quite up any of your street.


Also on another note, Fitted a window motor to a corrola this morning and the motor looked the same as the rear motor from the surf, Im going to check the part number on monday as it was only 22.65 trade.

[Sancho]

Also on another note, Fitted a window motor to a corrola this morning and the motor looked the same as the rear motor from the surf, Im going to check the part number on monday as it was only 22.65 trade.

It's the same.

Where did the new head come from? If it's an ebay one that's probably your problem.

[Daz81]

was the head a new one if so no worrys burb the system if it was 2hand may still have small cracks in

It was a recon jobbie from the bloke everybody on here suggested in my Newbie post and was alsmost twice the price of other heads i had seem how ever very good ratings about him which is why i went there.


I local machine shop swaped all the valve train over etc and seated all the valves etc as i just didnt have the time and though it would take the #### doing it at work.

I followed the advice given about bleeding the air out etc.

[Sancho]

It was a recon jobbie from the bloke everybody on here suggested

It'll be the pump then.

[steveo44]

try the k-seal this is a good thing its about a tenner if it as small cracks in it will seal them but its only temp but it might let u know wats going on if you know wat i mean.

[Sancho]

Please don't put K-seal in your engine. It will take forever to get it back out again once it's clogged everything up.

[steveo44]

leave u to it sancho just 4t it might help find the fault it only took me a day to flush it out but it did let me know that the head was cracked

[steveo44]

tried 2 give him advise and use threads i think hes took the hump and loged of