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    Oh Well no point dwelling on it. Guess the first thing is to work out if it is worth doing first. 1991 2.4 manual Surf how much would it be worth in average condition and how much is it worth sold in pieces?
    Next thing is fit a second hand engine or change the head which is best ?
    and last of all if I buy a head what to watch out for, quite a few on EBay also head gasket sets. thanks

  • #2
    Originally posted by goodjazz
    Oh Well no point dwelling on it. Guess the first thing is to work out if it is worth doing first. 1991 2.4 manual Surf how much would it be
    worth in average condition and how much is it worth sold in pieces?
    Next thing is fit a second hand engine or change the head which is best ?
    and last of all if I buy a head what to watch out for, quite a few on EBay also head gasket sets. thanks
    Replace the head and it will be sorted but don't buy one off Ebay, get in touch with Stevo on here.
    Your truck is a manual so worth a bit more than an auto as they're more rare.

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    • #3
      Head on mine went. Had it replaced and glad I did. Would hate to be surfless!!
      My other cars a QUAD
      (sv1000spilot on surf forums)
      http://www.devonandcornwall4x4response.co.uk/index

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      • #4
        I bought a head from ebay (chinesse copy) its working fine. Had some trouble with the head bolts and gasket bought from ebay though.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by splasher
          I bought a head from ebay (chinesse copy) its working fine. Had some trouble with the head bolts and gasket bought from ebay though.
          Did you have to hammer the bolts past all of the metal flash in the cylinder head bolt holes I thought the gaskets were graded to piston crown height so wondered how they had these one size fits all kits?

          I will cost it up and go from there how about a 3.0 conversion ? must be a few threads on that one

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          • #6
            Originally posted by goodjazz
            Did you have to hammer the bolts past all of the metal flash in the cylinder head bolt holes I thought the gaskets were graded to piston crown height so wondered how they had these one size fits all kits?

            I will cost it up and go from there how about a 3.0 conversion ? must be a few threads on that one
            there is too much work involved in putting in the 3.0l as you need all the wire loom and ecu.You would be better going the v8 route if your on about doing a engine swap like that
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            • #7
              Originally posted by stormforce1067
              there is too much work involved in putting in the 3.0l as you need all the wire loom and ecu.You would be better going the v8 route if your on about doing a engine swap like that
              There are many wires between the engine and ECU for all of the sensors etc but only a few earths and lives to the ECU from the vehicle.

              Its being able to get the loom ECU Engine Etc for the right money.

              Do you know if the gearbox is the same

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              • #8
                Theres quite a few of us now who have had this problem, We have bitten the Bullet & had it replaced MONEY WELL SPENT i'd say
                (\__/)
                (='.'=) SQUIRREL MUNCHER GRRRRRRR
                (")_(")

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by goodjazz
                  Oh Well no point dwelling on it. Guess the first thing is to work out if it is worth doing first. 1991 2.4 manual Surf how much would it be worth in average condition and how much is it worth sold in pieces?
                  Next thing is fit a second hand engine or change the head which is best ?
                  and last of all if I buy a head what to watch out for, quite a few on EBay also head gasket sets. thanks
                  I would recommend steveo (and have done lots of times) nevermind getting a proper later type head (which seems to solve the cracking problems) his customer service is bar none!

                  go.... buy a new head.... you know you want to
                  Bring me the head of a treehugger

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by marky
                    Theres quite a few of us now who have had this problem, We have bitten the Bullet & had it replaced MONEY WELL SPENT i'd say
                    Well I have got to say I am leaning towards a new head can anyone PM me a price for a modified head.

                    The truck does now need a rear exhaust and battery and seats (Bad Dogs ) and clutch and radiator and rear bumper ends but it does not all need doing at once.
                    Well that leaky radiator does I blame it for the head trouble

                    Total spend for three years motoring so far
                    Cambelt £35 Oil change £30, Fuel pump gaskets £12
                    Not bad as its being on three Dorset camping holidays, skiing in Scotland, up and back to the midlands once a week for a year and local work . Must change the oil more often.
                    Last edited by goodjazz; 6 July 2007, 00:16.

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                    • #11
                      Stevo - Stockport Engine Co

                      TonyN - 4x4Toys

                      Both are members on here. Both also on hols at the moment.

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                      • #12
                        Go the head-route from Stevo. Dont buy a secondhand engine (unless you can hear it running!). it will be tired and you can take it back but you have to pay the labour three times. New-head= peace of mind.
                        Powered by Toyota!

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                        • #13
                          The price of the 2.4 complete head kit on the ad should read, £675 inc vat and carriage, saving £124 for the same tried and trusted head kit we have used for years.
                          (\__/)
                          (='.'=) SQUIRREL MUNCHER GRRRRRRR
                          (")_(")

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                          • #14
                            Oh well I have gone the easy route and changed trucks

                            I tried a Landrover Yuk then a jeep grand limited thing horrible ride and 4.0 petrol. Could not find a 3.0 Surf manual for the right money so have ended up with a 98 Isuzu 3.1 not bad. faster acceleration than the Surf
                            Top speed is not as fast as the 2.4 and its not quite as stable around bends but this may be because I have the model that had the suspension tuned for off road.

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