need a glow plug relay

[caseyj]

crack open the injectors and check theres fuel to each one. I would say that if your getting voltage to the plugs then it could be fuel related, anyway don't think its been cold enough not to start without the plugs working. So if your sure the glow plug side is OK then its probably down to fuel, fuel pump, fuel filter etc.

fuel is all ok, there is NO power to the glow plugs,

[caseyj]

found a second relay next to the first one which is a round one with a black cap covering two terminals, does anyone have one of these spare i can buy???

[Simon.O.]

found a second relay next to the first one which is a round one with a black cap covering two

That second relay, in front of the main Glow plug relay is the important one.
While I was working out a way to fit a glowplug bypass I found that disconnecting this smaller relay isolated power to the plugs.
For some wierd reason (like all surf wiring ) the glows still get power even when the "Glow Plug Relay" is disconnected, that is when I found the importance of the smaller one in front of it.
Let us know how you go.

Another thing is compression.
This is the fun bit. If your engine is old / worn / low on compression then it will require a faster cranking speed to produce the correct compression in the cylinder for the diesel to detonate.
A 2.4 diesel will start form cold without the plugs IF the crank speed is fast enough. I can do it with two big batteries.

[caseyj]

That second relay, in front of the main Glow plug relay is the important one.
While I was working out a way to fit a glowplug bypass I found that disconnecting this smaller relay isolated power to the plugs.
For some wierd reason (like all surf wiring ) the glows still get power even when the "Glow Plug Relay" is disconnected, that is when I found the importance of the smaller one in front of it.
Let us know how you go.

Another thing is compression.
This is the fun bit. If your engine is old / worn / low on compression then it will require a faster cranking speed to produce the correct compression in the cylinder for the diesel to detonate.
A 2.4 diesel will start form cold without the plugs IF the crank speed is fast enough. I can do it with two big batteries.

crank speed is fine,have new high amp leisure batt, where can i get this smaller relay???

[caseyj]

does anyone have one of these smaller relay next to the glow plug relay??

[tigerbuc2004]

does anyone have one of these smaller relay next to the glow plug relay??

so many relays!!!

maybe the smaller one is the one i should look at!!

[Simon.O.]

To replace the smaller Relay that is in fron of the main Glow-Plug relay.
Given the gauge of wire going in/out of it I would safely say that a standard 30Amp Relay will cut it !!
Go to your local auto parts supplier, I think you guys have Halfords or something like that and get a 30Amp relay that is usually used for spot lights etc.
It is no stretch of the imagination to replace the existing relay with that.
You may have to crimp or solder on some new terminals as most aftermarket relay come with 1/4'' or 6.5mm spade terminals.
See how ya go there

Cheers.

[TonyN]

Even if you have no glow plugs, it should chug and splutter its way in to life after a minutes of cranking.

[tigerbuc2004]

Even if you have no glow plugs, it should chug and splutter its way in to life after a minutes of cranking.

thats exactly what mine does and i thought i had a dodgy plug so changed them all. it can sometimes start with one crank but if your rev her she coughs and splutters loads.

[tigerbuc2004]

fuel solonoid

thats exactly what mine does and i thought i had a dodgy plug so changed them all. it can sometimes start with one crank but if your rev her she coughs and splutters loads.

I have now been told I probably need a new fuel stop solonoid, dont know whether this may help you? Is this an easy thing to change and does anyone have one?

[NiftyNev]

I have now been told I probably need a new fuel stop solonoid, dont know whether this may help you? Is this an easy thing to change and does anyone have one?

I'd say they are just guessing and don't really have a clue.

If you have a 2L-T then that may be the case.If you have a 2L-TE they are talking S**T because they don't have one.Do not attempt the following test on a 2L-TE.

Simple test for a Fuel Cut Solenoid.Check if it clicks when ignition is switched on.If not then run a wire from battery +ive to solenoid to see if it operates.If it does then try starting the engine.If it starts then the solenoid will be ok and you have a problem between ignition and solenoid.

Note: If a jumper wire is connected to battery and solenoid then this will need to be disconnected to shut down engine.

Neville

[DaveD]

Hmm...hope you get sorted mate
Just a thought from a mechanical muppet.....
there was a thread running a while ago where someone had trouble starting a 2.4 and they had the order of the nuts washers etc connecting glow plugs to the bus bar so power wasnt getting to the glow plugs

[tigerbuc2004]

Hmm...hope you get sorted mate
Just a thought from a mechanical muppet.....
there was a thread running a while ago where someone had trouble starting a 2.4 and they had the order of the nuts washers etc connecting glow plugs to the bus bar so power wasnt getting to the glow plugs

whats the order, when i changed the plugs there was just nuts on the glow plugs and on the actual bus bar nut there was a load of different plastic washers which i put back in the right place. does that sound wrong DaveD?

[DaveD]

http://www.yotasurf.co.uk/forums/sho...w+plug+washers
Koi splains it here.....

[lizardinc]

need a relay too

need a relay too tony can you help me out please ... lixardincx@msn.com
cheers joe