Hello!

[BUSHWHACKER]

So much conflicting info on refilling/bleeding.
Best info I've received.............
Remove inlet pipe to heater(at bulkhead) & fill from there.
Remove outlet pipe from heater(at head)& watch for coolant to appear,refit hoses.
Fit a funnel into rad (3litre) or thermostat housing (2.4) & continue filling.
Leave the funnel in place & start the engine,Keep topping up funnel & watch as air expels.( bubbles of air) Do not allow funnel to empty completely.
when all trapped air gone.switch off engine remove funnel,refit cap.
Road test, recheck when cold. Job done.

Or, with a stone cold engine, park truck facing uphill or jack front end off the ground, set heaters to 'HOT', remove rad cap and leave on driver's seat, top up rad and half fill expansion tank and leave overnight.
Any air bubbles will have found their way out by morning. Replace cap after topping up rad (if necessary), job done.

[tashtego]

The 2.4 toyota pickup (farmer's) engine (2LT) heads are different casting to the 2.4 turbo Surf heads.(2LT-E)

...And...IMO sticking the turbo on the 2.4, in an attempt to give it a bit more ooomph has put it under more 'strain'. I agree the 2.4 pick ups used by farmers are reliable, durable vehicles. The same 2.4 is used here in minibuses (hiace type) and they go forever with no servicing.
Your 2.4 turbo Surf is another beast altogether tho'...sorry.

[shokenore]

...And...IMO sticking the turbo on the 2.4, in an attempt to give it a bit more ooomph has put it under more 'strain'. I agree the 2.4 pick ups used by farmers are reliable, durable vehicles. The same 2.4 is used here in minibuses (hiace type) and they go forever with no servicing.
Your 2.4 turbo Surf is another beast altogether tho'...sorry.

I am curious as to why you seem to hate the 2.4 so much?
It seems a strange attitude to take on a forum dedicated to all Surfs, I can only assume it is your form of humour or you are troll.

[pyemaster]

Thanks for your help everyone, I'll be sure to copy and print out this correct way to refill and bleed the coolant to the garage so they know this time how to do it.

I would do it myself but I'm not confident enough for something so important.

Owen

[BUSHWHACKER]

[ToyotaRon]

I'll have to bow to Bushwacker's superior knowledge on the head casting differences, I didn't know that.

Point taken, Tashtego, you're opinion may be coloured by your experience of the 2.4, but I'll stand mine too.

Pyemaster, not the same garage surely?!

[pyemaster]

It's difficult to know if it would be better to chance it at another garage who may also bugger it up, or be sure that having already had one go they may learn from their mistake. Also this time I'll get them to agree in advance on some kind of warranty as with a new head and gasket they'll have no excuse!

Owen

[woodwarm]

I am curious as to why you seem to hate the 2.4 so much?
It seems a strange attitude to take on a forum dedicated to all Surfs, I can only assume it is your form of humour or you are troll.

I think more than one troll on this thread

[BUSHWHACKER]

I think more than one troll on this thread

Don't be so hard on yourself.

[woodwarm]

Don't be so hard on yourself.

See post 9

[BUSHWHACKER]

See post 9

He seems genuine to me, he's on the Honda Prelude and mountain bike forums as well.

[woodwarm]

Ah that explains a lot.


I'm suspicious by nature

[tashtego]

I am curious as to why you seem to hate the 2.4 so much?
It seems a strange attitude to take on a forum dedicated to all Surfs, I can only assume it is your form of humour or you are troll.

Haha...I am no troll lol.
When new members come on the forum asking for advise on buying a surf I tell them to stay clear of the 2.4 as in my opinion it is the worst possible surf.
Compared to the other models (diesel or petrol) I find it sluggish, thirsty and with a propensity for overheating/head issues (even though some of the head issues are now surfacing with the 3.0 L too).
I also find that people often confuse the Top Gear 2.4 toyota engine (Hiace, "farming" pick ups etc) with the 2L-TE.
I enjoy surfs and my first one was, of course, a 2.4. I'm just telling prospective buyers that in my opinion for a little more cash they could get a much better surf.
That's all.
Isn't that what these forums are about?...sharing opinions and ideas...
Anyway, have a lovely weekend.

[shokenore]

I think more than one troll on this thread

I think the OP is just making doubly sure that he has his info correct.
Let's be honest we would all prefer to have an air lock as opposed to having to shell out on a new head.
Since I deleted the metal heater piping running over the turbo, and the pipework running in front of the cam cover, filling and bleeding the system seems to be a whole load easier.
Like Vince has mentioned having the truck parked facing uphill makes its a lot easier though but mine was done on the level.

It will be interesting to see how our non resident troll changes his tune now we have had a rash of 3.0 kettles appearing.

[shokenore]

Perhaps then it's the conviction you project in your posts that has started the confusion.
Point of fact
My EuroIV compliant Vito has comparable fuel consumption to my Surf.
My Surf has no trouble keeping up with the flow of traffic.
Bear in mind that around these parts not only do we have to put up with speed cameras(fixed) and mobile(hidden) we also have average speed cameras monitoring us.That tends to keep the speed down.
Since I have owned my truck the most expensive item I have had to buy for it has been the radiator, oh and a battery or two, I'm not going to count ARB brackets and the like.
Everything thing else that I have bought has been because I wanted to.
It has by far been the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned.
The have been two occasions when it has let me down, both by the MRS filling it up with petrol.
Off road I have got stuck twice where I needed assistance and both of those was running out of axle clearance and more my fault than the trucks.

Yes you can get the 3.0 for a bit more but surely a well kept vehicle is better than one with a dubious history as most of the current 3.0 kettle owners are finding out to their cost?
Yes you are entitled to your opinion but it might be worth changing the tune every now and again.
Thanks for the discussion and hope you too have a good weekend, I'm about to take my son to his gun run/parade and then I'm off fishing.
Happy Days.