First trip in my new surf. Done.

[markjd]

Had my first run out in my newly purchased surf and all went ok. Was pulling trailer with one horse in. Had to work the engine hard up the hills but temp gauge stayed in the safe zone. But engine was giving off some heat into the cab!!!

[Bazcam]

Had my first run out in my newly purchased surf and all went ok. Was pulling trailer with one horse in. Had to work the engine hard up the hills but temp gauge stayed in the safe zone. But engine was giving off some heat into the cab!!!

Might be an idea to fit an after market temp gauge if your planning on
pulling heavy trailors on a regular basis, the standard gauges can't be
trusted.

[si tate]

Might be an idea to fit an after market temp gauge if your planning on
pulling heavy trailors on a regular basis, the standard gauges cant be
trusted.

Good idea & maybe a transmission cooler as the heat inside the cab will have been from your gear box.

[yoshie]

Good idea & maybe a transmission cooler as the heat inside the cab will have been from your gear box.

Maybe a little but no where near as bad as the autos.

[NiftyNev]

Good idea & maybe a transmission cooler as the heat inside the cab will have been from your gear box.

How do you fit a transmission cooler to a manual?

Nev

[Surf01]

Had my first run out in my newly purchased surf and all went ok. Was pulling trailer with one horse in. Had to work the engine hard up the hills but temp gauge stayed in the safe zone. But engine was giving off some heat into the cab!!!

I don't think that a 2.4 2nd Gen can legally be used to tow a horsebox as the maximum braked towing weight is about 1500kgs. One of the reasons why we never bought a 2nd gen as it would not be able to tow our twin axle caravan safely and legally.

All I am saying is be careful because in the event of a mishap, your insurance may be invalidated as you constitute a danger on the roads. Chances of being stopped are very low.
I am fairly sure that someone posted the towing weights for the various genre of Surf on this forum sometime ago.

[markjd]

Might be an idea to fit an after market temp gauge if your planning on
pulling heavy trailors on a regular basis, the standard gauges cant be
trusted.

Thought about that but found a mod to make the original more accurate putting some resistors in behind the gauge.

[si tate]

Maybe a little but no where near as bad as the autos.

DOH!!!!
Didn't spot it was a manual.

"Pay attention Simon"

[si tate]

How do you fit a transmission cooler to a manual?

Nev

With difficulty.

[s car go]

I don't think that a 2.4 2nd Gen can legally be used to tow a horsebox as the maximum braked towing weight is about 1500kgs.

Surfs Don't have any weight info,but the 4 Runner is plated at Empty weight 1905kg,all up weight 2510KG,and GWT 4710KG so max tow weight is 2200KG.

It's a fat old horse if it weighs more than that,even with the trailer!!!

Regards

Mark

[markjd]

Been trawling the web for more info and most say the same there is no official weight so really you can't be penalised for being over weight.
Towed the trailer last time with two horses on the back of my passat tdi just slightly over weight lol but pulled like a train.

[Surf01]

Been trawling the web for more info and most say the same there is no official weight so really you can't be penalised for being over weight.
Towed the trailer last time with two horses on the back of my passat tdi just slightly over weight lol but pulled like a train.

I found the info on the web and the 3rd gen kerb weight is less than 1850kg with maximum braked towing weight of 2200kgs

Try searching 4 runner instead of Surf. The 4 runner is for the USA market and all the weights and stats are there. No difference except they are left hand drive.

A 2.4L is definitely not rated to tow in excess of 1500kgs. Actually after reading Road Traffic Act (Construction and use) I am not sure whether you can tow with a Surf as it has no plated weights.

[Albannach]

A 2.4L is definitely not rated to tow in excess of 1500kgs. Actually after reading Road Traffic Act (Construction and use) I am not sure whether you can tow with a Surf as it has no plated weights.

Nonsense.

[Surf01]

Nonsense.

Easy to say, but prove me wrong on whatever bit you think is nonsense. BTW I do tow a caravan, but within the manufacturers specifications

[Albannach]

Easy to say, but prove me wrong on whatever bit you think is nonsense. BTW I do tow a caravan, but within the manufacturers specifications

The bit I quoted is nonsense, you can't even substantiate it.

BTW, my mum tows a caravan (with her Mondeo, she's too old to tow it herself) also within the law but completely irrelevant.