Veg oil or Biodiesel?

[w33lerd33ler]

Running 50-50 SVO and heating oil would average around 82p/litre. Buying Texaco 2 stroke from Morrisons petrol stations at £2.99/litre and adding it at 100ml per 20 litre mix equals around 84p/litre.
However, unless you have a domestic heating oil tank, you would have to buy it from a supplier in smaller (25 litre ?) drums, for which they charge more, but it's definitely worth looking at. It's still illegal though

thats the problem iv had, most suppliers of WVO, Bio only sell it it stupidly large quantities...

while im on, Is it true that adding 2 stroke oil to normal diesel gives better MPG??

[Albannach]

Heating oil has a chemical marker, in the same way that red diesel has one. Red diesel only has a dye so it's easier to tell what it is on the likes of a farm where they may bunker 'red' and normal diesel.

If I were using heating oil as a fuel, I'd not be discussing it here.

[Surfer Ross]

You also have to be careful that the nice man from HMRC doesn't wonder why you're buying so much heating oil...

There are thousands of houses with oil fired heating around here. If I put a 1000L tank in my back garden, nobody would bat an eyelid.

I'm sure there are loads of users on the forum who are taxed much higher than me but after paying £700+ a month in Income tax and NI and then 20% VAT on everything else, I'm rapidly getting pi**ed off with paying about 80% fuel duty + VAT on pump diesel too. I suppose its just one of the joys of living in rip-off Britain. We used to get public services and an NHS in line with the amount we're taxed but now that any Tom, Dick or Harry is allowed into the country on a bogus student visa, we're paying twice as much tax for half the standard of living.

[Sancho]

while im on, Is it true that adding 2 stroke oil to normal diesel gives better MPG??

Yes, it might, a bit, but it costs more. Some swear by it. The only way to know is to put a bit in, see if it makes any difference then do the maths to see if it's worth it.

[Sancho]

There are thousands of houses with oil fired heating around here. If I put a 1000L tank in my back garden, nobody would bat an eyelid.

I'm sure there are loads of users on the forum who are taxed much higher than me but after paying £700+ a month in Income tax and NI and then 20% VAT on everything else, I'm rapidly getting pi**ed off with paying about 80% fuel duty + VAT on pump diesel too. I suppose its just one of the joys of living in rip-off Britain. We used to get public services and an NHS in line with the amount we're taxed but now that any Tom, Dick or Harry is allowed into the country on a bogus student visa, we're paying twice as much tax for half the standard of living.

I can understand that. Just highlighting that it would be illegal to put heating oil in a vehicle, in case someone didn't know.

[malxwal]

I would tend to agree with Albannach ( even though it was me who started it) about using an illegal fuel. Mine has now run dry, and the tank is being removed, so it's back up to SVO prices, plus some derv since it's still cold, all above board.
Ross, aye, all very well for the tax dodging millionaires who run the country to drive around in Rangeys and Jags, all expenses paid by us, whilst humping us at every turn.

[Surfer Ross]

Heating oil has a chemical marker, in the same way that red diesel has one.

Ah well, back to the drawing board. Thanks for the heads-up.

I can understand that. Just highlighting that it would be illegal to put heating oil in a vehicle, in case someone didn't know.

Sorry Adam, wasn't having a pop at you, this country drives me to despair at times.

[w33lerd33ler]

There are thousands of houses with oil fired heating around here. If I put a 1000L tank in my back garden, nobody would bat an eyelid.

I'm sure there are loads of users on the forum who are taxed much higher than me but after paying £700+ a month in Income tax and NI and then 20% VAT on everything else, I'm rapidly getting pi**ed off with paying about 80% fuel duty + VAT on pump diesel too. I suppose its just one of the joys of living in rip-off Britain. We used to get public services and an NHS in line with the amount we're taxed but now that any Tom, Dick or Harry is allowed into the country on a bogus student visa, we're paying twice as much tax for half the standard of living.

i could'nt have put it better myself! funny how these 'so called students' all wear the newest expensive designer clothing and sport the newest phones & gadgets while claiming our benefits aswell isnt it!! but thats a whole other topic we should'nt really start on here...

[w33lerd33ler]

so gettin back to the topic... ready made Bio for £1 litre without any hassle or WVO SVO mix???

[Surfer Ross]

so gettin back to the topic... ready made Bio for £1 litre without any hassle or WVO SVO mix???

Definitely! Get it tested first though as you don't know wtf is in it and it could have your injector pump lying dead in the engine bay on the first tank.

[malxwal]

Totally legal, no work involved, sounds fantastic.
Just try to run into it gently, then maybe only a quarter tank pure, just to make sure she's going to run fine on it !

[w33lerd33ler]

Definitely! Get it tested first though as you don't know wtf is in it and it could have your injector pump lying dead in the engine bay on the first tank.

might be a silly question, but how/where do i get it tested?

[Surfer Ross]

might be a silly question, but how/where do i get it tested?

Do a search on Google and you'll find exactly what needs to be looked at. The main ones are residual methanol and fatty acids as far as I know.

[w33lerd33ler]

Do a search on Google and you'll find exactly what needs to be looked at. The main ones are residual methanol and fatty acids as far as I know.

something like this???

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9730818-7.html

no price tho

[Surfer Ross]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Phliptest-Phli...item2c5681f7af

£25 for 4 test vials and 1 reference vial.