Uprated discs / Drums?

[mckirdy-services]

mmm rear disks is an interesting thought, is anyone any the wiser if it would be a simple swap ?

[BUSHWHACKER]

[QUOTE=dieselboy;668819]Apparently, bacon proves the existance of God. [QUOTE]


God is a pig?

[mckirdy-services]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Landcrusier-Co...item45f050c56d

and prob about £40 each for the caliper assembly etc from a breaker.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOYOTA-LANDCRU...item3a5ba8a0ef

[dieselboy]

[QUOTE=BUSHWHACKER;668897][QUOTE=dieselboy;668819]Apparently, bacon proves the existance of God.

God is a pig?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyWN5...eature=related

[dieselboy]

Yep Summitracing do EBC drilled and grooved discs for the 2nd gen. Probably do them for the 3rd too. Just the cost of shipping that's a problem.

That's them! Summitracing. Thought it was a Yorkshire company but that would have been Now'tRacing

[Ben_D]

Cheers guys, will have a look at summut racing.

Not sure how good the brakes are supposed to be on a Surf, I've only ever driven the one I own. My brakes are in good shape as far as I can tell but they've always been rather inadequate. The trip from Donside to Inverness via the Lecht and down to Dundee over the Fettercairn road usually leads to almost complete brake failure, they simply overheat!

Ben

[wishbone]

Funny thing is EBC are a UK company but none of their UK stockists can get them in for me. Maybe they're not EU approved or something....

[BUSHWHACKER]

Cheers guys, will have a look at summut racing.

Not sure how good the brakes are supposed to be on a Surf, I've only ever driven the one I own. My brakes are in good shape as far as I can tell but they've always been rather inadequate. The trip from Donside to Inverness via the Lecht and down to Dundee over the Fettercairn road usually leads to almost complete brake failure, they simply overheat!

Ben

Has the brake fluid ever been changed?
It makes a big difference having fresh fluid.

[Diezel Weazel]

Somebody has done a write up on here somewhere about the rear Disc brake conversion, I have the Pics from the post of the mounting brackets

I'll go n find em ....

Jess
"cos short cuts can cost more in the long run"

Here ya go

[Predictable Bob]

The first thing to do is drop a gear or two before starting a long, steep descent - you need to understand is that you're driving a two ton truck which means that when you brake you're trying to dissipate a huge amount of energy so the 'kin brakes WILL get hot regardless of whether you uprate them !

Next - the FRONT brakes do most of the work so while fitting discs to the rear will help there are more cost effective ways of improving things.

1. Replace the brake fluid
2. Fit braided hoses
3. Refurbish/replace the calipers
4. Fit good quality pads

You could fit a larger master cylinder which will give more braking effort BUT you really need bigger discs and pads as well

You could also consider fitting the brakes off a Tundra - there's a thread about it on here somewhere but the search isn't picking it up. IIRC it means fitting 16" rims AND grinding a bit off them too.

PS
If speed and stopping ability are important to you then you should have bought a shiny new V8 Landcruiser rather than a 14 year old Surf with unknown history

[DaveHMS]

As Bob's post above, I fitted new gen Toyota discs/pads, braided hoses & fresh fluid. The truck now stops better than I ever imagined it would.

[Bogus]

Has the brake fluid ever been changed?
It makes a big difference having fresh fluid.

Not only does it make a big difference, it is absolutely essential to change brake fluid regularly due to the fact that its hygroscopic ( absorbs water). This is even more important on a vehicle with ABS as the water can cause corrosion on these little shuttle valves and it doesnt take more than a spot to stop the beggars from shuttling. ( I know this, to my cost ) I sometimes wonder if failure to change it regularly is the cause of all those seized calipers. I know garages do checks on boiling point during certain services but really, its easy enough just to change it. Every two years max I would recommend. If your fluid boils it causes brake fade. If its shiny new fluid, boiling is less likely.

Bogus

[Ben_D]

Fluid was changed last year and hoses are O.K. Currently running genuine pads, only have a problem when ascending long steep hills, from experience of other cars (minis with all round drums) I reckon the fade is simply a heat issue.

Would these fit a 96 3L SSRX?

http://www.summitracing.com/search/D...6/?Ns=Rank|Asc

Cheers

Ben

[TonyN]

Don't take this the wrong way, maybe you know how to drive an Auto, but are you using the gearbox at all to slow down? Surf Auto's have great engine braking, We're toured all over Scotland, and Wales in our truck, fully loaded with stuff and towed other Surfs on trailers down hills steep hills and have not ever suffered brake fade. And 3rd Gens have bigger discs than 2nd Gens.

The only time I've ever experianced it has been tight offroad sites, were we've been on the brakes excessively for ages while cruising around.

That aside, let us know how getting the discs here price wise works, Drilled and grooved discs improved our Scooby brakes no end, and I would like them on the truck regardless.

Cheers guys, will have a look at summut racing.

Not sure how good the brakes are supposed to be on a Surf, I've only ever driven the one I own. My brakes are in good shape as far as I can tell but they've always been rather inadequate. The trip from Donside to Inverness via the Lecht and down to Dundee over the Fettercairn road usually leads to almost complete brake failure, they simply overheat!

Ben

[Ben_D]

Hi Tony,

I am using the box to slow down when required, it helps but brakes still fade. From what you say re towing and your own experiences I may have some brake issue that I am not aware of but, the car will have gone through 2 MOT's with the issue as brakes have always been crap!!

Re getting them here, I would try to get invoiced to home and delivered to work as samples with no commercial value to work.

When you put x drilled discs on Scooby did you notice a major drop in performance at low operating temps and did they chew pads appreciably faster than standard discs?

Cheers

Ben