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  • #31
    Originally posted by blackpoolsparks View Post
    I have a sneaky suspicion that, that is why Labour are gonna been keen to vote in a new leader.
    If a coalition government cant be formed, then another General Election with a different PM candidate, might just do the trick.
    If they do get a labour/lib dem deal done I can see it doing enormous harm to both parties, as well as the country.
    it's in me shed, mate.

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      • #33
        If Clegg gets anything less then full electoral reform, he will, in the eyes of the average man look like the biggest political prostitute in history.
        Have you noticed they've already stopped calling it electoral reform now.... and started calling it political reform
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        • #34
          Well,... and this is speculation mind, mr brown is was disaster politicaly; now the libs would be tarred with that proping up a looser brush if they supported him, the labour party ofcourse realise that and get him to stand down.

          So to PR, I first heard about it age 13, John Cleese explained it, and I can understand it still look at the disparity in the numbers.

          Torys = 36% 306 seats

          Labour = 29% 258 seats

          Libs = 23% 57 seats???????????????????? wtf

          How is that right? I mean 6% less votes than labour and then 201 less seats? sorry but that's just bollox.

          I'm not a Lib supporter, but even so that's just bollox lets have a reform and then another vote, surely that would be more fair?

          If a parliment is supposed to represent us, how the hell can the encumbant system do that? Seeing as it works like this?

          Thats me done anyhow.

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          cal
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Calos View Post
            So to PR, I first heard about it age 13, John Cleese explained it, and I can understand it still look at the disparity in the numbers.

            Torys = 36% 306 seats

            Labour = 29% 258 seats

            Libs = 23% 57 seats???????????????????? wtf

            How is that right? I mean 6% less votes than labour and then 201 less seats? sorry but that's just bollox.

            I'm not a Lib supporter, but even so that's just bollox lets have a reform and then another vote, surely that would be more fair?

            If a parliment is supposed to represent us, how the hell can the encumbant system do that? Seeing as it works like this?
            The big trouble with PR (and in fact the current situation) is that you end up with government by committee.

            If you want to avoid actually getting ANYTHING done, send it to a committee.

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            • #36
              Just my pennies worth. In Ireland they have PR. Don't like it at all. It's like MP's getting in by the 'back door'.

              1st past the post seems fair to me. Like the best man/woman for the job. The system I like the most, which wouldn't have a hope of getting in here, is the American system. You know who you are voting for. It seems their system works better than what works here.

              It has been said that Guy Fawkes was the only man with a decent idea in the house
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              • #37
                Originally posted by murph View Post
                Just my pennies worth. In Ireland they have PR. Don't like it at all. It's like MP's getting in by the 'back door'.

                1st past the post seems fair to me. Like the best man/woman for the job. The system I like the most, which wouldn't have a hope of getting in here, is the American system. You know who you are voting for. It seems their system works better than what works here.

                It has been said that Guy Fawkes was the only man with a decent idea in the house
                But the trouble with the American system is how the same money backs both sides - big corporations, etc.

                Admittedly that's not much different to here (Ashcroft, Trade Unions or the dodgy bloke who stole a few million quid to give to the Lib Dems!) but I'd be reluctant to change a system in case we end up with something worse!

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                • #38
                  If we can have a referendum on PR, why can't we just have a referendum on who the country wants to lead us?
                  It need not be complex, we already know who our MPs are (we just elected them) so all we need is a ballot paper with The three main parties on it.
                  Whoever gets the most votes governs!!

                  Simples.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Sancho View Post
                    So what would you have the do, Andy, given that no-one won the election?
                    How about the party that got the biggest share of the vote? Too simple?

                    The minor parties (Lib Dem count as one it seems, despite all their bluster) need to either align themselves with a major one or keep their nose out. As has been said before, a vote for a minor parties is nothing but a wasted vote which is likely to result in situations like we have now.

                    It seems there's a lot to be said for an elected dictatorship! At least we wouldn't have the ar5e licking prostitution we have now.
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                    • #40
                      I feel a little poem coming on....


                      Roses are red
                      violets are blue
                      cheerio Gordon you really were....poo.
                      Non intercooled nothing.

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                      • #41
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by gwh200 View Post
                          I feel a little poem coming on....


                          Roses are red
                          violets are blue
                          cheerio Gordon you really were....poo.
                          Are you going to throw him in the sea?

                          Please???
                          Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                          • #43
                            The flags are out, but I cant find the bunting! Funny time of day for a street party but needs must! WooooHoooooo!
                            it's in me shed, mate.

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                            • #44
                              I'm so sad he's gone. Who am I going to ripp tbd pi$$ out of now.
                              Non intercooled nothing.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by gwh200 View Post
                                I'm so sad he's gone. Who am I going to ripp tbd pi$$ out of now.
                                Probably the next Pr*ck to occupy the role!!
                                I'm sure they're all the same! Most of them would never want to be an MP if the salary was capped at about £40k
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