Politics.....again

[Sancho]

However the real bit that sticks in our gullet up here is; Doncaster council (no overall control) Now has a Labour majority ! Barnsley had a slim council labour majority of one seat Now we have a majority of 5? Vote for change ? when was that then ?

At lest you've got someone in charge. It's worse when there's no overall control and all they do is score points instead of making decisions.

[surfenstein]

politics..........its beyond me......they all want picking up by their dr spock ears and taken outside and have their lips kicked around the carpark.bunch of useless wayne kers.

[gwh200]

Not quite right.

Labour get wind of the fact that Clegg and Cameron can't do a deal so tell Gordon to stand down as the last role of the dice. Clegg is now in a much stronger position with Cameron because he would be willing to team up with Labour so he can give Cameron a harder time. Cameron has to decide whether he's going to give in to Clegg.

Meanwhile Labour are on the phone to the SNP, Plaid, the Greens and a few weird Irish parties who all want the same thing trying to find enough support so that they would have a majority if the LibDems came to play.

Clegg will play both sides off against each other but neither wants to give him anything.

I'll probably end up with another election being called in a week's time or Cameron deciding to run a minority government.

The LibDems won't change the way we vote without recourse to the people - they were proposing a referendum on it, not an immediate change.

Labour have just offered IMMEDIATE reform to the voting system, in a bid to cling onto power. This is a sheer affront not to any political process, but democracy itself.

It reeks of nepotism...badly. JHust like the maastricht treaty, and the lisbon treaty...keep on voting till you get the result you want. And as for no one winning the election...true. But why should the two parties who came last and very last, govern.

[John h]

At lest you've got someone in charge. It's worse when there's no overall control and all they do is score points instead of making decisions.

Spot on Sancho 1here in Donny all they want to do is get rid of the 'elected mayor' obviously not labour !

[Sancho]

But why should the two parties who came last and very last, govern.

Any other suggestions?

[Chillitt]

Any other suggestions?

How about the only coalition that has any realistic chance of working? Why don't they just do that. The main problem with this 'rainbow coalition' is that there isn't a hope in hell of it lasting until the ink is dry. It's like asking Rangers and Celtic to put up a joint team.
The only thing they can do is a con/libdem alliance, they don't have to enjoy it, they dont have to get all their pet projects up and running on day one, but they do have to crack on and start getting us out of the mire. the rest can be sorted out later, with a bit of luck...

[Sancho]

The problem is that LibDem are generally left of Labour these days. Personally, my preference would be for someone, anyone, to form a minority government and for all MPs to vote according to what they believe in, rather than the party line. That's what we actually elect them to do.

[gwh200]

All this...mire, can only make us seem like some bannana republic. The best option in my opinion is to have the damm election again, as soon as possible.

[Sancho]

All this...mire, can only make us seem like some bannana republic. The best option in my opinion is to have the damm election again, as soon as possible.

Won't we all vote the same again?

[hellmett]

Re

Another election using proportional representation.

Party with the 'most' elected members govern.

Simples!

let's face it, we all want Brown out and are desperate for some small hope and changes.

I personally hate Labour for what they have done but I ain't a Tory or Lib Dem supporter!

I would rather have Father Dougal Maguire as prime minister, he couldn't possibly be as bad as Gordon The Liar!

Our politicians have generally proven themselves to be unworthy our votes over the past few years.

I trust none of them and I firmly believe that the are ALL in it for the money/power trip!

Britain is finished!

Soon we are gonna be known as the little island off the coast of europe where you can go to get welfare.

Previous applicants need not apply!

[gwh200]

Won't we all vote the same again?

wont we ?

I would expect a LOT more interest to be shown this time. There is one voting reform im in favour of (which i believe exists in australia), where if you are eligible,you are legally required to vote.
Voter apathy is the biggest winner here. Would we vote the same again...its the first time its happened in 30 years, perhaps this might spur the population on to exercise their vote in a different manner. We face a really big challenge, whoever wins, in getting the economy back on track. This prevarication is just the last thing this country needs right now...or indeed at any time.

[gwh200]

Another election using proportional representation.

Party with the most elected members govern.

Simples!

Its not that simples.....

It would require either a boundary change again, or each mp being worth x amounts of votes per population, per area per mp voted in.Its a mega expensive change....just what britain needs right now, after the electoral commision quango costs billion anyway. And all this so a minority group grasps power.

[hellmett]

Re

I'm still reeling and flabberghasted that Labour still remain in power!

How on earth could the people's aspirations be any clearer?

[Bogus]

in our current media driven times, the vast majority of people direct their love or loathing at the head of the party in power. He/she after all, becomes the prime minister. Their position, persona and personal standing is fundamental to a party being elected. Some bloke, who wasnt elected as the leader of a partry, but becomes one by default...go figure. The electorate feels cheated. And pr...how many snp mp's and how many labour...and who's the boss ?

They can feel as cheated as they like, but neither your opinion or mine make facts. When you vote, all you are voting for is your MP, in the hope that enough other people vote for an MP of the same hue and your mob "get in" You may "like" the leader and want him as PM but you have to accept the fact, that under our current system his party can dump him anytime.

I think its all hideous and an insult to the British people. I cant believe that two (or more, if Labour are to seize power) parties who DID NOT win an election can possibly end up running a country! It's just insane, and if we get PR (as Lib Dems want) we will have this ###### mess every time they need to make an important decision.

Unbelievable!

And the alternative? A government with insufficient majority to govern. To keep the wheels rolling somebody who did not win is essential


Brown, as far as I'm concerned is a ###### disgrace (always has been IMO) for dragging this out which is either a) he is totally deluded b) desperate to hang on to power at any cost. Thankfully the rest of his party have seen fit to stab him in the back for the sake of a last ditch grasp at power. They make me sick.

Brown is in my opinion no worse than any of them, I beleive that history may look kindly on him

Bogus

[blackpoolsparks]

I have a sneaky suspicion that, that is why Labour are gonna been keen to vote in a new leader.
If a coalition government cant be formed, then another General Election with a different PM candidate, might just do the trick.