surfing wannabe

[nomis]

Hi all. Just joined this forum to get the ins and outs on these hilux's. I have never owned one but have fancied one for a while so once i sell my import legacy gt i might get one. All i have learned so far is i want a 3.0 diesel and its gotta be manual, cant stand autos. One thing i cant work out is whats the difference between a surf and a 4-runner? Anyway, thats about it so far so please feel free to treat me as an idiot and give me all the nitty gritty on these great lookin cars. cheers.

[Koi]

welcome to the mad house

Basically the difference is Surf begins with S and 4Runner begins with 4.

One made for the UK market and as such you dont get most of the extra stuff on a Runner which is standard on a Surf, cup holder, air con etc.
Still get all the electric windows and mirrors.
Most of the parts are the same and can be sourced readily.

[BioHazard]

Welcome to the mad house .......... beware the hedgehog

[Nick V]

"Can't stand autos"! Can't understand why, but you need to try both with a Surf and you may be surprised! You may find a manual slightly more difficult to source - but then I am probably wrong there

Cheers, Nick

[MattF]

All i have learned so far is i want a 3.0 diesel and its gotta be manual, cant stand autos.

I wouldn't decide against the auto's unless you've actually tried an auto Surf. They aren't half as bad as people imagine.

[MudSurfer]

Hi Simon and welcome, as Matt said, don't dismiss the auto until you've tried it...depends on whay you want to do with it, for me, offroading in a manual would scare the cotton trolleys off me, I can't do riverdance....

Have a good look around and take your time before you buy one, it's very much a buyers market, so see whay you can get away with when you make an offer too...

[Diezel Weazel]

Hey Andy, 6n half years with a manual is long enough for anybody ...
Auto it is Now n forever !!!!
Try em both !!

There's always a Payback .... Don't know where n don't know when tho !!!!

[nomis]

Thanx for the welcome folks. I know what your sayin about autos but i've had auto cars before and i just dont like them. At work they've given me an auto truck and i HATE IT!!!!! It suits some vehicles such as motorway cruisers but trucks, 4x4's, sports cars? NO!

[joecuba]

AFAICS, manual Surfs are way less common than the autos.

I went from a manual Legacy to an auto Surf, and love the auto, just so easy to cruse about and I don't fancy big heavy clutches. Plus the Surf ain't exactly a sports car. Anyway, you pays your money...

4 Runners of the same age will have been exposed to more of the UK weather / salted roads, so will prob be in less good shape, so not worth as much IMHO unless you find a good un.

[Apache]

Agree with manual on a sports car, but on anything else I'd take an auto ANY day! All that changing gear and clutching in stop / go traffic, how bl00dy working class!

(And before I had the Surf, I thought I hated autos too)

[JUDWAK]

dude nice to see more local face's turning up
if ya need owt mate giz a shout

[BUSHWHACKER]

I could do with some, how much for a kilo of owt or is it sold by the gallon?

[gwh200]

A manual surf would be better than this total GIT of a car i seem to lumbered with. If anyone ever offers you a peugot 306 sedan.................punch them and run away. Its worse than the corsa and that was capable of making me weep. The only bright spot on the horizon, is that i have swapped that for a small diesel van...............just need to somehow get it up here


oh and try an auto new fella.you may be surprised.

[nomis]

dude nice to see more local face's turning up
if ya need owt mate giz a shout

aye, cheers. i gotta get this legacy repaired and sold then i can get a hilux. Those are the instructions from the mrs anyway. I got one i wanna buy but rules is rules.