Any one thinking of leaving UK - Emigrating ?

[greecysurf]

Most expats return for family and health reasons, i love the UK and am proud to be british, but i cannot live with whats happening there, used to work seven days a week, 12 months the year, and after tax etc it was just not working, i worked just to pay the bills. Every country is differant, the favorite saying here is AVRIO, which means tomorrow, because of the burecacy it can take 3 or 4 days to do one thing, but the sun shines and the Greeks are in the same boat, they just shrug and totter of to the bar. Saying that they leave you alone to do your own thing, every countrys differant, problems occur when people expect it to be the same as the UK. the saying same s**t differant shovel is very apt, only differance is where the shovel is.
Confucious now going to bed.

[Phantom]

Most expats return for family and health reasons, i love the UK and am proud to be british, but i cannot live with whats happening there, used to work seven days a week, 12 months the year, and after tax etc it was just not working, i worked just to pay the bills. Every country is differant, the favorite saying here is AVRIO, which means tomorrow, because of the burecacy it can take 3 or 4 days to do one thing, but the sun shines and the Greeks are in the same boat, they just shrug and totter of to the bar. Saying that they leave you alone to do your own thing, every countrys differant, problems occur when people expect it to be the same as the UK. the saying same s**t differant shovel is very apt, only differance is where the shovel is.
Confucious now going to bed.

And don't forget what Confucious say "man who go bed with itchy bum wake up with smelly finger"

[Bibbs]

but at the end of the day, a tuppence is a tuppence.

But not after the Labour government have had their say.

They will take 50% of that 2p in tax, and then land you with debts of another £30,000 to pay off.

All while they write childish emails about their competitors, have their husbands watch gay moveie and charge us, and then bugger off with a golden goodbye when the population realise they are a bunch of feckwits.

[Apache]

But not after the Labour government have had their say.

They will take 50% of that 2p in tax, and then land you with debts of another £30,000 to pay off.

All while they write childish emails about their competitors, have their husbands watch gay moveie and charge us, and then bugger off with a golden goodbye when the population realise they are a bunch of feckwits.

You're a bit all over the place there. Do you, or do you not vote labour?

[Bibbs]

You're a bit all over the place there. Do you, or do you not vote labour?

Honestly?

I don't vote.

A vote for the lesser of 2 evils, is still a vote for evil.

I need a party who say :
MMGW is unproven - but we'll work to make things more efficient and less poluting.
You earn your cash - you can keep your cash.
If you are not working - we'll make you work.
If you are not keeping yourself healthy - we'll not help you.
If you are scum we'll lock you away - prison is a punishment, not a holiday camp.

Can you tell I'm Australian?

[Apache]

Honestly?

Do you REALLY need me to answer that???

I don't vote.

A vote for the lesser of 2 evils, is still a vote for evil.

I need a party who say :
MMGW is unproven - but we'll work to make things more efficient and less poluting.
You earn your cash - you can keep your cash.
If you are not working - we'll make you work.
If you are not keeping yourself healthy - we'll not help you.
If you are scum we'll lock you away - prison is a punishment, not a holiday camp.

Can you tell I'm Australian?

Wholeheartedly agree with your requirements.

However, if you dont vote, you will never change anything. A vote, at the very least, sends a message.

[Sancho]

You lot should move up here it's great. It's also been sunny for near on three weeks now.

Is that in total, since time began?

[Sancho]

Can you tell I'm Australian?

Don't forget:

If you're indigenous - live in poverty in a desert
If you're Asian - give us your money but don't expect to live here
If you're a woman - either sleep your way to the top or work in a shop
If you're a refugee - either die or float around until the New Zealand navy gets you
If you're poor, we'll leave you to rot

Can you tell I've lived in Australia? Selfishness works to a degree and Australia's a fine country for the 'haves'. It's in the British psyche to pride ourselves on our humanity and, whether it's right or wrong, there's no simple fix to hundreds of years of culture.

[Apache]

It's in the British psyche to pride ourselves on our humanity

Worthy too. However, we're being taken advantage of by all and sundry, starting with our OWN idle. Fact is that most 'refugees' are now just here for the free ride, not to avoid being shot or persecuted. They've seen how easy it is to 'live for free' from our own inhabitants, and we're too lily livered to say "Enough!!"

1) If you CAN work - you WILL work

2) If you CANT work - we will support you well (now we've got the terminally bone-idle into work)

3) You cant come here unless under threat, but if you're not under threat and simply choose to come here, welcome, but you WILL contribute. If not, you'll be on your way home within a month.

Someone NEEDS to do this. Britain cant simply keep handing out money. As tax payers, we can only absorb so much.

[Sancho]

It's being done.

Asylum• The number of applications for asylum, excluding dependants, was 2 per cent lower
in Q4 2008 (6,735) compared with Q4 2007 (6,870). Before this quarter, there had
been 5 successive year on year increases.
• In Q4 2008, 4,720 initial asylum decisions were made, excluding dependants, an
increase of 3 per cent compared with Q4 2007 (4,570). 68 per cent of initial
decisions were refusals, 20 per cent were granted asylum and 12 per cent were
granted Humanitarian Protection or Discretionary Leave.

Enforcement & Compliance
• In Q4 2008, 16,525 persons were removed or departed voluntarily from the UK, 2
per cent fewer than in Q4 2007 (16,855). There was a fall of 16 per cent to 2,570 for
those leaving who had claimed asylum (including dependants) but an increase of 1
per cent to 13,950 for non-asylum cases.

Managed Migration
• The number of persons granted settlement in the United Kingdom, excluding EEA
nationals, in 2008 was 145,965. Employment-related grants numbered 60,770 a
return to the levels in 2005; asylum related grants numbered 3,860 continuing the
fall from the peak of 67,810 in 2005; family formation and reunion grants numbered
52,230 compared to 50,820 in 2007.

[Maverick]

It's being done.

Asylum• The number of applications for asylum, excluding dependants, was 2 per cent lower
in Q4 2008 (6,735) compared with Q4 2007 (6,870). Before this quarter, there had
been 5 successive year on year increases.
• In Q4 2008, 4,720 initial asylum decisions were made, excluding dependants, an
increase of 3 per cent compared with Q4 2007 (4,570). 68 per cent of initial
decisions were refusals, 20 per cent were granted asylum and 12 per cent were
granted Humanitarian Protection or Discretionary Leave.

Enforcement & Compliance
• In Q4 2008, 16,525 persons were removed or departed voluntarily from the UK, 2
per cent fewer than in Q4 2007 (16,855). There was a fall of 16 per cent to 2,570 for
those leaving who had claimed asylum (including dependants) but an increase of 1
per cent to 13,950 for non-asylum cases.

Managed Migration
• The number of persons granted settlement in the United Kingdom, excluding EEA
nationals, in 2008 was 145,965. Employment-related grants numbered 60,770 a
return to the levels in 2005; asylum related grants numbered 3,860 continuing the
fall from the peak of 67,810 in 2005; family formation and reunion grants numbered
52,230 compared to 50,820 in 2007.

If that data came from our goverment, they will have found a way to manipulate it, so it can't be trusted. If however it came from the raw source before the goverment got hold of it then it is probably all down to the fack that they can see the turning of the tide and didn't want to stay here anymore.

[Predictable Bob]

Hi Bibbs, I like the plan - can you start in Reading please ?

It's nice and convenient for you and there's plenty of scope !

[Bibbs]

Don't forget:

If you're indigenous - live in poverty in a desert
If you're Asian - give us your money but don't expect to live here
If you're a woman - either sleep your way to the top or work in a shop
If you're a refugee - either die or float around until the New Zealand navy gets you
If you're poor, we'll leave you to rot

Can you tell I've lived in Australia? Selfishness works to a degree and Australia's a fine country for the 'haves'. It's in the British psyche to pride ourselves on our humanity and, whether it's right or wrong, there's no simple fix to hundreds of years of culture.

I don't get the "poverty in the desert", that's how they lived before. Least now they have a choice of a western life, or the historic life.

I (like to think I) work ###### hard and have spent a lot of time getting to where I am (which isn't far, but it's comfortable). I don't see why I should support others who dont.

Having been in court this week after being assaulted by the local pond life, and seeing the "justice" delivered .. I'm out of here.

Bob - I think Reading is a lost cause .. I think most major towns are to be fair. We need a designer virus to wipe out the work shy and those in charge of their own rewards.

[MattF]

I don't get the "poverty in the desert", that's how they lived before. Least now they have a choice of a western life, or the historic life.

Those who have never seem to appreciate the fact that what they take as granted, to a large degree, just does not exist for some.

We need a designer virus to wipe out the work shy and those in charge of their own rewards.

So destroy everyone other than the lower/working classes then?

[MattF]

Huh?? :

Think about it. How do you make someone who is not content with their lot content?