OK CHAPS thats good .well still haven't been sent the snaps but the story is that on Monday at work a firm turned up to do some work on trees around the place they have done a lot over the last year .they run a lwb land rover truck and 2 Santana's (Spanish built land rover) trucks well on Monday they needed to tow there chipper (about 2 ton) across two Fields the truck only just pulled the thing into the field and got itself well and truly stuck so i offered to pull the truck still attached to the chipper across the fields and my truck did it with ease . as i said there are photos and when i get them ill put them on here .i think that my car proved 2 things 1 that a 2.4 unmodified surf on general grabbers is a very useful tool and 2 Toyota not land rover are possibly the best 4x4xfar

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