Ooooohhh...

[jelsplace]

That's not totally ridiculous (apart from why do they need it in the first place) EXCEPT...

What in God's name is that stupid sticky-up bit on the roof? If that landed on my desk it would get the red pen treatment straight away. And why is there a gap down the middle?

So what your saying is it is actually rediculous!

[new surf]

The two can go hand in hand, just look at the Triumph Spitfire sorry, the Supermarine Spitfire and the E type Jag

[Sancho]

The two can go hand in hand, just look at the Triumph Spitfire sorry, the Supermarine Spitfire and the E type Jag

Ah, but the Hurricane was much the better plane than the Spitfire but didn't get the recognition because it wasn't as pretty.

[new surf]

It also wasn't as fast and couldn't fly as high. But it was made to do a job and still looked good.

[AndyLala]

Its all bonkers... mind you most of the guggenheim's are properley mad buildings, more so in the flesh...

The Bilbao Guggenheim is gloriously bonkers...
Looks different throughout the day with different light...



But as you say a pig to build.

But isn't that the point... where form actually works with (or should that be dictates) function, there by creating a whole different level of conversation. These types of buildings were never meant to be boring simple boxes, because they were meant to stimulate conversation.

At the time, Van Der Rohe, Rietvelt

,

and Brueur


were challenging the accepted norms, now although still 'modern' they appear iconic. (interiors and exteriors)

Thank god that sometimes the engineers and architects get on... although its a personal bugbear that architect attempt furniture...

Favourite has to be the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona... Gaudi did most of it on his own... design and build... although for a self build a little ambitious...

ps. helps if I post it...

[Apache]

[QUOTE=Sancho;472580]Ah, but the Hurricane was much the better plane than the Spitfire QUOTE]

Really?

Wasn't as fast or manouvrable, but was easier and cheaper to build because of its simple, thick profile wing. The Spitfire's elliptical planform (built to deliver lift stresses evenly across its span amongst other things) required more precision.

I dont see how this makes the Hurricane 'better' as such.

[AndyLala]

mass produced is always better...

just think processed cheese... the spawn of the devil...


Arrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh!

[BioHazard]

hand built every time ...........it's just too damm expensive

[Sancho]

[QUOTE=Apache;472585]

Ah, but the Hurricane was much the better plane than the Spitfire QUOTE]

Really?

Wasn't as fast or manouvrable, but was easier and cheaper to build because of its simple, thick profile wing. The Spitfire's elliptical planform (built to deliver lift stresses evenly across its span amongst other things) required more precision.

I dont see how this makes the Hurricane 'better' as such.

It was cheaper, had a tighter turning radius, was a more stable platform for the guns and you could actually see out of it.

Hurricanes accounted for 80% of kills in the Battle of Britain. That counts as 'better' to me.

[Sancho]

Now, that.....is shit.

[AndyLala]

hmmm... ok...

but it is increadibly comfortable...

[Sancho]

hmmm... ok...

but it is increadibly comfortable...

Not for me. I've got a spine like a stegasaurus so I want cushions.

[yoshie]

I know what you're saying, and agree (its not mutually exclusive), BUT form has to follow function in that the function should be as close to perfect BEFORE the form is designed, or the item is less than ideal. Ideally, the best form will fall naturally from the item's function.

If form can be made to compliment function, so much the better.

Depends on what it is mate, the below is close to perfect form. As for function who cares if she cooks or does dishes

[AndyLala]

now you are talking...

Jessica (perhaps not quite so much photoshop) just like that in the Rietvelt chair...





















nope, we're done... cheque please?

[MattF]

I've never understood why one person can't have a talent for making things that work and a talent for making things that look good.

That is an ability only a few possess, where they do not become bound by their specific primary vocation, but instead try and merge the best attributes of all.

The flip side of that also describes that abortion above which Apache says is an engineering marvel. FFS, if that takes a true engineer to do, thank chuff he thinks I'm a hairdresser. That is the type of technical prowess you would expect to see emerging from the workshop of an amateur. The form is neither complete nor robust, judging by that picture above.