anti roll bar

[lord lucan]

Sorry, and I try not to bang on about these things, but it's not actually a fact. Removing the ARB will increase body roll and that will increase the propensity to fall over, albeit not by much. That will be exacerbated by home-made lift kits and messed up suspension geometry.

What is a fact is that you are sufficiently comfortable with the minor risk that this presents and so are many others. It is, I think, a little irresponsible to state on a public forum that removing ARBs has no effect on stability even if you think that the naysayers are just being big girls.

I shall get back in my corner now

very well said , i couldnt agree more.

[Apache]

My argument has always been that removing ARBs presents no extra risk if you are aware of your vehicles limitations.

Early secondary school physics tells you that if you continue to blast around roundabouts like an ar5e (something you shouldn't do in a Surf type vehicle anyway) then you will have a little extra mass shift and so increase your likelihood of a rollover slightly.

If you drive within the vehicles new limitations, you have mitigated the risk.

This IS a fact.

You may come back from your corner now

[Apache]

very well said , i couldnt agree more.

Thats not factual, I'm pretty sure you could agree more. Now get back under your tartan blanket!

[Sancho]

It's the 'Elk Test' scenario that bothers me.

Anyway, I've said my piece and I have a diabolical hangover so I'm not going to keep labouring the point.

[MattF]

It's the 'Elk Test' scenario that bothers me.

??? Not heard of that one before.

[pirate-storm]

??? Not heard of that one before.

you have now

[MattF]

you have now

Still no idea what it means though.

[pirate-storm]

Still no idea what it means though.

think if you lean left you go right or something

[lord lucan]

arb,s are for comfortask these guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xr7ktz1_as

[RodLeach]

Still no idea what it means though.

Its a swedish test ( i think its swedish!) where you have to go hard left to hard right or t'other way round to simulate an 'elk' walking into the road


The new L200 was okish.... the new Hilux rolled!

What sancho is saying (an i agree) is that in the event of anything going into your lane an your natural reaction to yank the steering left/right your probably going to end up on tut' roof!

[pirate-storm]

Its a swedish test ( i think its swedish!) where you have to go hard left to hard right or t'other way round to simulate an 'elk' walking into the road


The new L200 was okish.... the new Hilux rolled!

What sancho is saying (an i agree) is that in the event of anything going into your lane an your natural reaction to yank the steering left/right your probably going to end up on tut' roof!

yeah but any car bus lorry etc can do that with arbs on n besides we aint got no elks in this country

[Sancho]

Still no idea what it means though.

Really trying not to bite here, but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZF8N...eature=related

[MattF]

Its a swedish test ( i think its swedish!) where you have to go hard left to hard right or t'other way round to simulate an 'elk' walking into the road

Cheers.

What sancho is saying (an i agree) is that in the event of anything going into your lane an your natural reaction to yank the steering left/right your probably going to end up on tut' roof!

If that is the type of control one has over the vehicle, or your general driving style, then you are pretty much bolloxed regardless. It's the same type of scenario as the pedal stompers where braking is concerned. As Apache mentioned, knowing, keeping within and being able to deal with your vehicles limitations is far more important than any ancillary, (i.e: not basic suspension/safety components), ride smoothing components.

[lord lucan]

Really trying not to bite here, but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZF8N...eature=related

and thats with arb,s fitted

[MattF]

Really trying not to bite here, but:

You can resist not arguing no more than I can resist being cranky.