Tech Section

[24Seven]

You lot argue over anything

So we

Don't want to ask for a donation to the club for avents run
Don't want to charge for the tech section
Don't want to have advertising
Don't want to increase subs

I guess the only thing is to expect Koi and lucky to carry on paying the £30-£40 per month out of their pockets?

[TonyN]

You lot argue over anything

So we

Don't want to ask for a donation to the club for avents run
Don't want to charge for the tech section
Don't want to have advertising
Don't want to increase subs

I guess the only thing is to expect Koi and lucky to carry on paying the £30-£40 per month out of their pockets?

Exactly.

If the place needs cash, it needs it or its going to go somewhere less reliable, then everyone is bitchin another slow pages and frequent breakdowns.

You don't think Koi and Lucky havn't looked for cheaper hosts? They are losing money on it, its in their interests to find a cheaper place if poss.

Having closed tech forums isn't my idea of ideal. but we have a sellable rescourse, so it makes sence to try and use it.

My opinions..........

Closed sections, OK if its just a members lounge type place to hang out and have fun. Tech sections? Not so sure. Someone who googles "Surf head cracked" will get linked here, find they have to pay, so go back to google and try the next link. So 1/ they won't join anyway. 2/ not how many extra people you'll get paying money anyway.
Best way is like we have now, Get people here and having fun, then hope the contribute.

Up the subs, Possible, and reliable. You know the numbers, don't think more than a handfull of people will be petty enough and throw thier toys out the pram and leave, especially if we're sensible about it.

Extra Contributions.
Very possible, and doable, Get suppliers to donate small prizes, and have a raffle at offroad events, or just monthly on the forum. every have the chance of getting something, any cash from the tickets goes towards forum expences. Or just a collection box by the bbq.

Adverts. Possible, annoying if pop ups and happening at the top of the screen. maybe a few more, but leave you open to rubbish hassles when people are bitching about a supplier, and they are an ad subcriber. Not sure how many more are even possible.

Outright begging.
Look guys, we need £X this year and see what happens. I reckon enough people would come through.

[pirate-storm]

I am against charging for events .......i feel so strongly about this that if you do charge for any greenlane event i will withdraw from attending

It may be cutting my own nose off but as stated earlier in this thread , the plain runs cost me alot to put on , and i do it for the fun of it . And the pleasure of watching others enjoy them ..........And i enjoy attending other events.
AND Just because you have alot of disposeable income don't think we all have .......i have got to do alot of overtime to get the finances inplace to attend



Please do not force me to withdraw from the wales event

im with you on that one woodzie even though ive never done the plains or the wales trips etc n only done the cornish lanes.
if you start charging for events dont you have to have some sort of insurance license then?.
money aint easy to come by when you aint working & already go with out for your kids even though they worth it.
i would be like i said earlier be happy if i have to pay upto £20 a year as it worth it n i couldnt do without you guys ie tonyn, stein ,stormy, apache etc.
im not the best guy understanding how to fix skull n depend on you guys to help n if i had to take skull to a garage i know i would get done but here you guys tell it like it is n im so proud of everyone on here thats has helped me over the past year n even those that havent but have in some way shape or form also you guys help one another so lets stop n think how we can save the forum etc i know im the idiot of the forum but i always thought you guys were intelligent to be able to put your heads together n come up with a good idea to help save it for all of us.
this idiot finished with my rant now

[yoshie]

This Thread shows why its a good idea to flag the blue star, John was happy to pay once pointed in the direction.

http://www.hiluxsurf.co.uk/forums/sh...d=1#post414789

[yoshie]

im with you on that one woodzie even though ive never done the plains or the wales trips etc n only done the cornish lanes.
if you start charging for events dont you have to have some sort of insurance license then?.
money aint easy to come by when you aint working & already go with out for your kids even though they worth it.
i would be like i said earlier be happy if i have to pay upto £20 a year as it worth it n i couldnt do without you guys ie tonyn, stein ,stormy, apache etc.
im not the best guy understanding how to fix skull n depend on you guys to help n if i had to take skull to a garage i know i would get done but here you guys tell it like it is n im so proud of everyone on here thats has helped me over the past year n even those that havent but have in some way shape or form also you guys help one another so lets stop n think how we can save the forum etc i know im the idiot of the forum but i always thought you guys were intelligent to be able to put your heads together n come up with a good idea to help save it for all of us.
this idiot finished with my rant now

Vince was correct. You may be proud of and depend on some on here but you love and depend on this smiley more

[Maverick]

I don't think it's right that Koi and Lucky have to sub the Forum from their own pockets.
I don't like the idea of closing sections, as I think it will change the whole feeling of the forum.
I think charging for events will open you up to loads of red tape and complications, which will put a stop to most of them.
I also would like to have reliable servers, especially as it only like to crash when I'm working on the truck.

I think the best compromise, that would annoy the least amount of people, would be to increase the subs by a reasonable amount (I'd pay cause I know it's worth it, and I'd miss the family feeling here), advertise the subs more (I know it's been said but I think it needs to be done), and if there is a short fall of funds announce it, cause I think you'd find that people would contribute.

I'd just like to add closing the tech wouldn't effect me as I've got my blue star, but I've just started to get to the bit where I can help others (hopefully accurately) and that's giving me a warm (smug) feeling inside.

[pirate-storm]

Vince was correct. You may be proud of and depend on some on here but you love and depend on this smiley more

thats because im a happy chap on here n like to laugh you dont want to see me when im in a really bad mood :

even my docs dont want to see me when im in a bad mood

[yoshie]

Okay for what its worth.
Lets focus on informing all who join about the subs to keep the site alive.

Now lets cut to the chase
I admire Matt and everyone like him who will support and defend the freedom of the NET both by words and action (his site for example) this after all was it's inventors intention he also makes no money from the NET.
But we need money to run this site that is a fact. So lets do whats required
double the subs to £10 per six months or £20 for the year which ever makes for a better cash flow.

I don't belive anyone on here can not afford 38p per week.
If you can't then I'm sad for you however, my advice would be turn off the computor you can't afford the electric.

[Muddy Boots]

Sorry I have done my usual and read the first two pages and then skipped to the end so if this point has been raised already appologies.

I came across this site a couple of months before I bought my Surf now over two years ago. Its only because of this site that I have still got the Surf and I can do most of the mechanics on it. The money I've saved buying stuff off the parts section and the advice I've been given on the tech section has payed for the forum subs over and over again.

I gotta say I think that this forum is probably one of the best I visit on a daily basis.

Just thought I would add by bit.

The Volkswagon forum I go on routinely asks for contibutions in the region of £25 to £30 and in fairness you don't get anymore for your beans.

Keep up the great work.

[coolsv650]

my twopenneth (and it will be quick before I get sacked!)

Why not "pass round a hat" at off road events, no pressure to pay, no "charge" just contribute where you can. as tesco point out "every little helps"

Certainly remind newbies of the benefits of joining

up the subs a bit.

Make it clearer/ bolder on the membership stuff.

and pester roughtrax/milners. We do recommend them enough times!

back on 'ed

[yoshie]

Come on guys pass the hat wtf!
Were talking of an increase from 19p to 38p a week lets just shut up and pay up.
I mean after all it's our site. Who could do without it?

[Woodzie]

I have no objection to a increase in subs ........also a idea
Why not make it £10 for 6 months or £15 a year .......like new people think that they will get a bargin for a years membership .......also encourage new members that hang arround that it worth the donation.
If you up the price too much you will drive people away in the long term
Also look into the other methods of raising income without being too invasive

[Koi]

Decision made, as the annual subs has sat at £10 for best part of 4+ years and everything else in living goes up subs will increase to £15 per year.
Out of this £15 (previously £10) it has to subsidise the stickers and postage and pay pal fees so will end up nearer £12 towards the running costs.
Also looking at trying to put a banner or pop up on to highlight the fact of the subs is available, as a lot have said is not highlighted enough.
This banner/add/popup will only be seen by those not contributing.

[MattF]

Decision made, as the annual subs has sat at £10 for best part of 4+ years and everything else in living goes up subs will increase to £15 per year.
Out of this £15 (previously £10) it has to subsidise the stickers and postage and pay pal fees so will end up nearer £12 towards the running costs.

Increase in subs ain't no problem Ne'er said owt against that one. Just a last two penneth. Would it not be better to have the subscription at £15 without the stickers, as purely an upkeep and running costs of forum sub, and do an £18 sub that gets you the stickers to boot? It's a slim enough difference and you'd get the actual £15 quid towards running costs then, and £3 quid extra for the stickers if required.

[yoshie]

Go with Matt if you want stickers pay for them.