Tech Section

[surfenstein]

I'm special, don't you know.

yea very special

[Tiger]

Splasher

The surf will be extinct before you can drive

[MattF]

It will by me mate, and your opinions NEVER follow anyone elses.

I'm special, don't you know.

[Splasher.]

If I can afford the subscription fee, all you other non payers can too!!
And I can't even dwive yet.

[Apache]

Btw, do you honestly think that any opinion which doesn't go with the general opinion or design will be paid any attention?

It will by me mate, and your opinions NEVER follow anyone elses.

[MattF]

I think your missing the point, if it is not self sufficiant then it will not be an available tech resource will it. and everyone looses (don't they)

Then sell it to someone who is willing to keep it freely available. I don't agree with the subscription method. Period.

[Tiger]

This whingey attitude that seems to be proliferating tech forum owners of late. Christ, nothing is ever free to run, and income is never guaranteed. The whole point of an online resource is for it to be an online resource, not some closed, unless requirements are met, resource. If they were ever bothered about cost, they shouldn't have started the forums in the first place. And no, this isn't a dig at Nigel or anyone else specifically, but rather all the admins who are coming out with this attitude of late. And coming out they truly are of late. It's like a damned plague.

I think your missing the point, if it is not self sufficiant then it will not be an available tech resource will it. and everyone looses (don't they)

[surfenstein]

How is it a loss? Other than actual paid work related to my trade, anything else I ever do is freely done both for the benefit of myself and for other people. I expect nothing and ask nothing in return. If I ever wanted the website to make any money, it would be hosting a shop, or some other such commercial section. Charging others for helping people is not my idea of an income generation method, however.

Why do people post on here in response to threads in the tech section? To help other people. Would you ever consider asking anyone for anything in return for helping them with their problem on here?

yea pasties.

[MattF]

and your quite happy to take that loss then.??? im not being pedantic just interested.

How is it a loss? Other than actual paid work related to my trade, anything else I ever do is freely done both for the benefit of myself and for other people. I expect nothing and ask nothing in return. If I ever wanted the website to make any money, it would be hosting a shop, or some other such commercial section. Charging others for helping people is not my idea of an income generation method, however.

Why do people post on here in response to threads in the tech section? To help other people. Would you ever consider asking anyone for anything in return for helping them with their problem on here?

[surfenstein]

Yup. Before electric, hardware, maintenance, my time or anything else is taken into consideration, just shy of £500p.a.

and your quite happy to take that loss then.??? im not being pedantic just interested.

[MattF]

ok point taken.im aware that things cost money,but what im saying is how do you do it.i mean your site is free,but does that cost you???

Yup. Before electric, hardware, maintenance, my time or anything else is taken into consideration, just shy of £500p.a.

[Woodzie]

funny you should say that ive heard a few people call you a big ape.

Oook Oook OOOK

[surfenstein]

Why does anything cost money Mark? The host has staff, electric and equipment to pay for, as well as line leasing. They obviously have to charge for people to use it. Or was there a different point to that question?

ok point taken.im aware that things cost money,but what im saying is how do you do it.i mean your site is free,but does that cost you???

[MattF]

but instead of that he's throwing the floor open for suggestions as to how to ease the financial burden.

Btw, do you honestly think that any opinion which doesn't go with the general opinion or design will be paid any attention?

[RodLeach]

This whingey attitude that seems to be proliferating tech forum owners of late. Christ, nothing is ever free to run, and income is never guaranteed. The whole point of an online resource is for it to be an online resource, not some closed, unless requirements are met, resource. If they were ever bothered about cost, they shouldn't have started the forums in the first place. And no, this isn't a dig at Nigel or anyone else specifically, but rather all the admins who are coming out with this attitude of late. And coming out they truly are of late. It's like a damned plague.

Which is why i suggested a larger contribution option, Its unfair for both Koi to bare the brunt of costs but just as unfair to deny access etc.

Im not sure how much more ££ Koi is after to help run the site. But it seems one of the easiest options. Its still free. you can still access 100% of the site - just those who wish to put in a few quid more can do so an be represented with the silver star ....