Just bought 2gen 1992

[Sancho]

No, he's cancelled someone else's bid because they didn't have any feedback. He might be telling the truth. Give him a chance to explain but keep your wary hat on.

[Chillitt]

Looks like the seller has just joined up....

[white akita]

that seller is a dealer, thats what he told me.
its been advertised 3 or 4 times, i nearly bought it but realised it has the blue plastic dash so i left it.

[mckirdy-services]

that seller is a dealer, thats what he told me.
its been advertised 3 or 4 times, i nearly bought it but realized it has the blue plastic dash so i left it.

mm mm not quite what he has said to me, I have said I'm not going to complete the sail as listing incorrect no ABS etc, we have now exchanged a couple of emails as I wanted to find out exactly what was going on.

The guy is a member on here!

I will update when i know more.

I am still in market for a surf 3gen (with ABS) under £4000 can go higher if something special

Thanks again guys for all your advice

[Sancho]

mm mm not quite what he has said to me, I have said I'm not going to complete the sail as listing incorrect no ABS etc, we have now exchanged a couple of emails as I wanted to find out exactly what was going on.

The guy is a member on here!

I will update when i know more.

I am still in market for a surf 3gen (with ABS) under £4000 can go higher if something special

Thanks again guys for all your advice

The seller is Badger, currently posting in the 2.4 section and, as far as I can see, an honest bloke trying to sell something he can't use. Although why he can't is still a bit of a mystery to me.

[white akita]

possibly he bought it off a dealer, because he has used the dealers photos on ebay i was assuming it was the same person who had previously advertised it 3 times on ebay.

[mckirdy-services]

The seller is Badger, currently posting in the 2.4 section and, as far as I can see, an honest bloke trying to sell something he can't use. Although why he can't is still a bit of a mystery to me.

The description on ebay was wrong! It may have been an honest mistake we all make them, but the description was still wrong! and not what I wanted maybe fine for someone else, could be genuine, but not what i wanted as not the same as described.

I don't mean to rant but I nearly drove over 300 miles to pick up something that I would have later found to be not what I wanted or thought it to be.

Where is it listed? could you please post a link on here,

Thanks

[Sancho]

The description on ebay was wrong! It may have been an honest mistake we all make them, but the description was still wrong! and not what I wanted maybe fine for someone else, could be genuine, but not what i wanted as not the same as described.

I don't mean to rant but I nearly drove over 300 miles to pick up something that I would have later found to be not what I wanted or thought it to be.

Where is it listed? could you please post a link on here,

Thanks

I'm not implying that you're in the wrong at all. It's just that this is in the public domain and I wanted to set the record straight so that if anyone else is looking at that truck and looks on here they don't think that he is dishonest or a dealer, when there is no evidence of either.

[Apache]

Sounds like he was stitched up by the person he got it off (ABS, freewheeling hubs etc)

You see loads of dealers trying that on. Our new member probably fell for it, and realised when people started questioning his eBay ad, which seems likely judging by his questions in the 2.4 section.

Still, as it was incorrectly described (accidentally by the look of it) on eBay, the buyer does have a valid reason not to go ahead with the purchase, and given that the seller genuinely seems not to have realised and was just going on what the dealer told him, I'm sure he will appreciate why the buyer does not want to go through with the purchase.

Bears out the bit of advice always given on here. Reasearch before you buy!

[mckirdy-services]

The sale has been mutually withdrawn in ebay.

It looks like it might have been a genuine mistake, however I am just glad it emerged before I picked it up.

Hopefully I will be able to get a surf within the next few weeks as I need a 4x4.

[Apache]

So, does the 3rd gen have ABS then?

TBH I've never really missed it in the 3 years of 2nd gen ownership, but then when I learned to drive, ABS was only available on cars well out of my price range so I learned to brake the old fashioned way.

Mind you, my Mk1 MR2 (one of the greatest affordable drivers cars in history) had no ABS, no airbags, no power steering etc etc. Just four wheels, a mid engine, and handling that made the car feel like an extension of your body. Subtle mods such as 30mm lower, stiffer suspension and slightly lower profile, wider tyres. God that thing stuck to the tarmac on tight twisty lanes so well that it could take on anything and not be embarrassed! I'm waxing lyrical a bit, but I do miss her.

[mckirdy-services]

So, does the 3rd gen have ABS then?

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I hope so! all the 3gen are advertised with ABS, (please let me know if this isn't the case)

I learned in a car without ABS but I have the following vehicle history.

Fiesta (no ABS) write off / didn't stop in time
Peugeot 205 (no ABS) write off / didn't stop in time... ever! always coming off the road
Ford escort van (no Abs) OK / didn't top in time
Combo van (with ABS) so far so good, predictable breaking distance
Transit van (with ABS) so far so good, predictable breaking distance

I wouldn't claim to be the best driver! but I have found that ABS has stooped me from crashing into things.

I have slowed down a bit as well!

[Apache]

The last point is probably the main reason! With a lifted Surf on large offroad biased rubber, there's no option but to drive in a laid back manner, unless you're particularly suicidal cretin that is.

Its a mindset really. Leave big gaps between you and the guy in front, take notice of road conditions and dont be a hero.

There is a body of opinion that says the more 'safety' features built in to cars, the less care people take when driving. I reckon Volvo's 'auto braking' is definitely a step in the wrong direction as I can just imagine a Volvo driver's subconcious saying 'I dont have to concentrate as much cos autobraking will save me'

Also, I had a Celica which WOULD NOT stop in the snow as the ABS interfered so much.

[yoshie]

Have to agree I have never been less stressed driving since swaping 200 300 bhp jap metal saloons.

For my lovely chunk of jap 4x4 and a life below 70mph

[TonyN]

I have slowed down a bit as well!

Just as well!!!

Jeeze, I've never had a motor with ABS in my life, and most with rubbish grip M/T's at that, and I've never been unable to stop or crash into anything with the brakes locking up in 23 years of driving.

(PS, all 3rd gens have ABS)