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**Woodzie** · 17 January 2007, 09:55

Originally posted by gary16163

New Gas Plan...

Blair wants us to cut the amount of fuel we use. The best way to stop using so much fuel is to deport 11 million illegal immigrants! That would be 11 million less people using our fuel. The price of fuel would have to come down as a result, and global warming slowed.

New Immigration Plan...

Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the border. When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq . Tell him if he wants to come to Britain , then he must serve a tour in the military. Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it. After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he fought for this country. He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot. This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq , and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.

If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo. Problem solved.

Thats the best idea i have heard in a long time ,,,,,,,I'll vote for you

EXCUSE ME P!%% after a sh!77y nights work

**spooky** · 17 January 2007, 10:29

you get my vote aswell

**Sancho** · 17 January 2007, 12:22

Nice plan - just a couple of minor points:

1. We don't have 11 million illegal immigrants.
2. Most of the price of fuel is tax, so demand has little effect on its cost.
3. Moving people elsewhere would have no effect on global warming as they are still using fuel somewhere on the globe.
4. We don't have a border.
5. Very few illegal immigrants are 'caught'. Most are asylum seekers ('bogus' or otherwise) or people who arrive 'on holiday' and never leave again.
6. If we stopped blowing places like Iraq up, they wouldn't all have to move here to get away from the war.

Sorry, one of those days already

**drunkmonkeyboy** · 17 January 2007, 14:11

all good points well made, but the conclusion i think we are all getting towards is that tony blair is a dick and labor are not doing our country any favours!

**MattF** · 17 January 2007, 14:15

Originally posted by Sancho

Nice plan - just a couple of minor points:

It's nice not being the only pedant on here again. Nice to have you back.

**Sancho** · 17 January 2007, 14:15

Originally posted by drunkmonkeyboy

all good points well made, but the conclusion i think we are all getting towards is that tony blair is a dick and labor are not doing our country any favours!

I think, from what has come up on previous political discussions, that we do indeed all agree that Tony Blair is a dick. That is now so many people's opinions that I am tempted to declare it an official fact.

**Sancho** · 17 January 2007, 14:16

Originally posted by MattF

It's nice not being the only pedant on here again. Nice to have you back.

Thanks Matt. I am going to try to hold fire on the correcting thing for a while.....

**MattF** · 17 January 2007, 14:18

Originally posted by Sancho

Thanks Matt. I am going to try to hold fire on the correcting thing for a while.....

Well, you know the old saying.

**beaufighter** · 17 January 2007, 15:35

Anyone see the Dispatches documentory on Channel 4 on Monday? I found this quite worrying, maybe not in the too distant future governments will realise that their policies on immigration and what is PC have not benefited this nation. I used to be proud to say that i was British, although I now insist that i am English and correct any form that is sent to me. Whilst I have no objection to people emmigrating to this country, I do expect them and any citizen to adopt and accept our rules and way of life. Much too often this is being eroded away and long term it will be the indiginous population that suffers.

Governments give the excuse that we need these people as our population is declining. Rubbish! I have every respect for those that are working and contributing to our system which in term provides for them and us. However, I have no time for those that are here to abuse our civil rights and expect constant hand outs for housing costs and other benefits where they are contributing nothing and unless it is in the black market, have no intention of working.

Just look at how difficult it is now to emmigrate to the likes of the USA, Canada or Australia. They wil only take on those that are needed. Yes, I say let our troops patrol our borders and protect decent, law abiding people from those that choose to invade this country and destroy everything that my fathers generation fought for.

**lord lucan** · 17 January 2007, 16:29

Originally posted by gary16163

New Gas Plan...

Blair wants us to cut the amount of fuel we use. The best way to stop using so much fuel is to deport 11 million illegal immigrants! That would be 11 million less people using our fuel. The price of fuel would have to come down as a result, and global warming slowed.

New Immigration Plan...

Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the border. When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq . Tell him if he wants to come to Britain , then he must serve a tour in the military. Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it. After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he fought for this country. He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot. This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq , and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.

If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo. Problem solved.

yeah i,m with you on that one,i know there cant be 11 million illegals, but it sure feels like there is.

**BUSHWHACKER** · 17 January 2007, 16:48

Just look at all this criteria you need to meet to migrate to the U.S.
http://www.visabureau.com/america/citizenship.aspx

Why can't it be like that here, as the Government want to copy everything else America does!!? It seems they just leave the door open at Dover to me!

**pops** · 17 January 2007, 16:53

Originally posted by BUSHWHACKER

Just look at all this criteria you need to meet to migrate to the U.S.
http://www.visabureau.com/america/citizenship.aspx

Why can't it be like that here, as the Government want to copy everything else America does!!? It seems they just leave the door open at Dover to me!

What Bally DOOR they even put a tunnel in to make it easier to get here son

**kevsta** · 17 January 2007, 17:07

right then..

Originally posted by Sancho

I think, from what has come up on previous political discussions, that we do indeed all agree that Tony Blair is a dick. That is now so many people's opinions that I am tempted to declare it an official fact.

ok hands up, who voted for the cock again last time round anyway? ..he should be in prison along with The Bush, and hopefully will end up there once he's finally out of office.

they just executed Saddam for (technically) the unlawful killing of 120-something people, with the worst case scenario of him having maybe killed 61,000 in his whole reign.

The Bush-Blair Project are up to anywhere between 30-70,000 now depending on who you believe, in only a couple of years of helping the Iraqi people out, not to mention all our boys.

..still at least they've sorted Iraq out now eh?

...we should bring them home alright and they should march on Westminster IMO. *%*&%$!!!!!

**beaufighter** · 17 January 2007, 18:07

Hopefully Blair will have his day in court but know doubt his barrister wife will find some technicality of human rights that is being breached by him being summoned in the first place. My thought is that immigration is allowed to the extent in that for everyone that comes here, Blair and his rag time government rack this person up as another potential voter. After all if it is this government that invited them in they will vote for them to enable them to stay.

I have used the tunnel many a time and it is a great way to get into europe. However, britain has always had the security of the sea around it and now the tunnel is a weak spot. There are deseases, such as TB that were eradicated only to be seen to return. Illness and viruses now seem so much stronger and difficult to shift. Why, because people are allowed to enter without any quarantine or checks.

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