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  • #16
    Originally posted by MattF
    Three minutes late.
    Damn, bugga, blast
    Another member of the 'A' team

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    • #17
      Originally posted by The Lovely Boyo
      Damn, bugga, blast
      www.overfab.uk

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      • #18
        Originally posted by vatchman
        didnt they use to fill tractor tyres with water to get the same effect.
        Yep - our tractor leaks like a goodun if its left parked for any length of time. Was also for ballast though
        Linda

        www.4x4toys.co.uk

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        • #19
          a 36" tyre half full of water is no fun to drive!!

          it gets to about 20mph and then starts to shake itself to peices!!
          nee nar nee nar, i'm a fire engine!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MattF
            Centrifugal force. They will always move to the outermost point which allows
            them to remain stationary. If it's unbalanced, they won't stabilise, and will keep
            shifting, until they reach the spot where balance is achieved.
            But... the outermost point will be the point which is heaviest already. Simple physics innit? At that point, 'g' will be highest because it will have the highest angular velocity, so stuff will tend to gather there.

            I know if this stuff works, then I must be wrong, but I dont know how.
            Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Apache
              But... the outermost point will be the point which is heaviest already. Simple physics innit? At that point, 'g' will be highest because it will have the highest angular velocity, so stuff will tend to gather there.
              Following your equation, g would also be the point which has the tendency
              to throw itself outwards, so it would always be vibrating. Nothing would settle,
              thereby moving around until it reached a point opposite where stasis is finally
              achieved. Nothing would actually be permanently stable and in place, but it
              would be as close as.

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              • #22
                Another way to look at it. Take the old bucket of water trick. There you have
                rotation coupled with sidewards movements from the arm joints, which should
                theoretically cause something to be all over the place. However, when you reach a certain speed, the water is trying to go outwards, the bucket is holding
                it in, which also dampens the movement from your own arm as you have a force
                pulling upon it at all times. You end up with a jerky non controlled rotation
                becoming a dampened, speed controlled rotation.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MattF
                  Another way to look at it. Take the old bucket of water trick. There you have
                  rotation coupled with sidewards movements from the arm joints, which should
                  theoretically cause something to be all over the place. However, when you reach a certain speed, the water is trying to go outwards, the bucket is holding
                  it in, which also dampens the movement from your own arm as you have a force
                  pulling upon it at all times. You end up with a jerky non controlled rotation
                  becoming a dampened, speed controlled rotation.
                  Mmmm, I see that, so basically you could have a kind of 'fake' balance. The wheels mass around the rotation point is not necessarily even but the moveable mass damps out the vibration that the uneveness would otherwise cause.

                  Think I'll stick to lead weights. Sounds like snake oil... Bobbox, where are you?
                  Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Apache
                    Think I'll stick to lead weights. Sounds like snake oil... Bobbox, where are you?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Apache
                      Think I'll stick to lead weights. Sounds like snake oil... Bobbox, where are you?
                      Not scared of science, are you..??
                      It just does, OK?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by dave.j.robbo
                        Not scared of science, are you..??
                        Seem to remember there was no science offered last time we did the bobbox thread...

                        Lots of 'this sealed box makes everything great', but no science at all.
                        Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Apache
                          Seem to remember there was no science offered last time we did the bobbox thread...

                          Lots of 'this sealed box makes everything great', but no science at all.
                          We needed to find someone clever enough to find out how it worked.....
                          but we couldn't...
                          It just does, OK?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by dave.j.robbo
                            We needed to find someone clever enough to find out how it worked.....
                            but we couldn't...
                            Touche!

                            I'm still happy to take yours apart, assuming it's not sealed so you cant tell it's just a resistor in a bit of potting compound
                            Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Apache
                              Touche!

                              I'm still happy to take yours apart, assuming it's not sealed so you cant tell it's just a resistor in a bit of potting compound
                              To be honest, I think it will be all potted. I took the plug apart a while ago (it's just a 9pin D-type), and that was internally potted. I'd be surprised if the rest of it wasn't..
                              Anyway, it seems that someone's found a cheap (free) way of doing the same thing now!!
                              It just does, OK?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by dave.j.robbo
                                To be honest, I think it will be all potted. I took the plug apart a while ago (it's just a 9pin D-type), and that was internally potted. I'd be surprised if the rest of it wasn't..
                                Anyway, it seems that someone's found a cheap (free) way of doing the same thing now!!
                                Turn the screw on the fuel pump?

                                It's only like buying the ball bearing from eBay really isn't it? Just a bit more expensive...

                                Never mind eh, if it does what you want and you're happy, who cares?
                                Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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