Winch or what?

[Panrixx]

I can post the plans for the craddle.
If you got the craddle made I'ld help you fit it

Gary,

I've been thinking of fitting one as well, but only if it looks as well put together as yours. Apart from any other reason, I could do with one to winch the plant trailer I keep at the bottom of the garden up the slope that leads to the front drive.

Could you email me a set of the plans, or do the measurements have to be 'scaled' off the drawing(s)?

Fancy another trip to Cornwalll to install mine???

[Chillitt]

surely these thing would be better tucked away under the back, where the spare wheel isn't. whats the reasoning behind always having them on the front? (sorry dumbass question... )

[MattF]

You're generally trying to go forwards?

[Panrixx]

surely these thing would be better tucked away under the back, where the spare wheel isn't. whats the reasoning behind always having them on the front? (sorry dumbass question... )

A good idea in principal but there could be a couple of drawbacks:

1) The power cables would need to run the full length of the vehicle and apart from the problem of routing them the power loss/resistance might be too much. I'm not an auto electrician but Gary is so he would be better placed to answer the latter point.

2) The winch would need to be mounted low enough for the cable to run horizontal, off the drum, and miss the rear bumper. Even lower if you have a tow bar. Therefore, it would probably be as low as if it was mounted at the front.

The only way, that I can see, of mounting it higher up into the wheel bay area would be to have a specially designed roller that hung down from the main winch (might be vunerable to damage while off-roading). The cable would then run vertically down to the roller and then horizontal from that point.

[Chillitt]

You're generally trying to go forwards?

yeah, but if you got stuck, chances are you will just winch yourself into the mire even further... discretion being the better part of valour, i think i would rather drag myself back where ive been rather than in even deeper... i've never even seen a winch in action so i'm probably wrong... .

[Slugsie]

yeah, but if you got stuck, chances are you will just winch yourself into the mire even further... discretion being the better part of valour, i think i would rather drag myself back where ive been rather than in even deeper... i've never even seen a winch in action so i'm probably wrong... .

I've been in a convoy going up a rocky route. The only way that most of us could make it up over one particular 'step' was to be winched up by a vehicle that had already made it (the first car winched it's self up with a ground anchor). Generally speaking a front winch is more useful. Having said that, I've seen installations where the winch is mounted into a carrier frame, which is then attached into a receiver mounted onto the vehicle. In such instances it's not uncommon to have receivers mounted front and rear so you can pull in either direction.

As for mounting a winch in the 'spare wheel hole'. Sounds like a great idea. If I was doing it, I'd run the cable through a hole in the bumper with the fairlead rollers attached to the bumper (maybe with some additional bracing behind it attached to the chassis). That way you don't affect clearance, and you can keep the cable run fairly horizontal.

[MattF]

yeah, but if you got stuck, chances are you will just winch yourself into the mire even further... discretion being the better part of valour, i think i would rather drag myself back where ive been rather than in even deeper... i've never even seen a winch in action so i'm probably wrong... .

For the really serious setups, there is usually one front and back, so you can
go either way. If through the quagmire is the only way to get to point B, however,
forwards is the only way you can go. The point to remember is that some people
head for the long bog pits specifically with the intent of getting all the way through
them. If people went for the easiest route, off-roading wouldn't exist generally.
The mud lovers would stick to tarmac.

[Wild Thing]

Gary,

I've been thinking of fitting one as well, but only if it looks as well put together as yours. Apart from any other reason, I could do with one to winch the plant trailer I keep at the bottom of the garden up the slope that leads to the front drive.

Could you email me a set of the plans, or do the measurements have to be 'scaled' off the drawing(s)?

Fancy another trip to Cornwalll to install mine???

Heres the plans mate
All cut from 5mm guage stainless steel but if using mild steel 6mm

[Panrixx]

Heres the plans mate
All cut from 5mm guage stainless steel but if using mild steel 6mm

Thanks Gary,

Do you have details of hole centres and diameters? I know I could measure them myself but my motors is a 1995 KZN130 so should be the same as yours.

I would have no problem with the mechanics of this install, it's just the electrical side I would need lots of advice on.

[Wild Thing]

Thanks Gary,

Do you have details of hole centres and diameters? I know I could measure them myself but my motors is a 1995 KZN130 so should be the same as yours.

I would have no problem with the mechanics of this install, it's just the electrical side I would need lots of advice on.

I found it easier to offer the craddle up to the chassis and mark the holes, but know I have it fitted I can get the hole dimensions from mine.
As for the electrics I can soon help with that with diagrams etc, but that depends on the winch you get as to the wiring but they are all straight forward.
The cheapest way to get the heavy duty cables is to go to a welding suppliers then get the ends and crimp them on yourself

[The Lovely Boyo]

As for mounting a winch in the 'spare wheel hole'. Sounds like a great idea. If I was doing it, I'd run the cable through a hole in the bumper with the fairlead rollers attached to the bumper (maybe with some additional bracing behind it attached to the chassis). That way you don't affect clearance, and you can keep the cable run fairly horizontal.

At the Surf RTTS there was a seriously tricked out Landy 90 - had winches front and rear , both through the bumpers. No winch to act as a plough.

Looked the real deal.

The amount of room where the spare wheel goes under a Surf is immense - there shouldn't be too many problems mounting and not affect ground clearance. - Have a look on the aussie site for the size of spare fuel tank they fit in there!

[stormforce]

At the Surf RTTS there was a seriously tricked out Landy 90 - had winches front and rear , both through the bumpers. No winch to act as a plough.

Looked the real deal.

The amount of room where the spare wheel goes under a Surf is immense - there shouldn't be too many problems mounting and not affect ground clearance. - Have a look on the aussie site for the size of spare fuel tank they fit in there!

That was the yellow one that pulled me out and then got stuck in the boggy bit.That was nicely done up

[Panrixx]

I found it easier to offer the craddle up to the chassis and mark the holes, but know I have it fitted I can get the hole dimensions from mine.
As for the electrics I can soon help with that with diagrams etc, but that depends on the winch you get as to the wiring but they are all straight forward.
The cheapest way to get the heavy duty cables is to go to a welding suppliers then get the ends and crimp them on yourself

Thanks Gary. I was thinking of this one,

http://www.winchsolutions.co.uk/winc...al_Offers.html

Is'nt that the same as yours?

[Wild Thing]

Thanks Gary. I was thinking of this one,

http://www.winchsolutions.co.uk/winc...al_Offers.html

Is'nt that the same as yours?

Yes it's the same one, good winch but need to remove the solanoid pack and mount it remotly under the bonnet away from dirt and water as I did, very easy to do, once you get it all sorted with what you want I can tell you how much cable you need and what guage

[Panrixx]

Yes it's the same one, good winch but need to remove the solanoid pack and mount it remotly under the bonnet away from dirt and water as I did, very easy to do, once you get it all sorted with what you want I can tell you how much cable you need and what guage

I'll do that Gary, thanks. I first need to get a quote for the fabrication of the cradle. If it's not too much trouble to get the hole specifications I would appreciate it. SS seems the best option although at a price.

Can you give me an idea of how much is reasonable for the cradle fabrication?

Down here in Cornwall things can either be much cheaper than elsewhere or much more expensive, depending on what it is. Builder's, for instance, seem to charge pretty much what they like as there is so much demand for barn conversions etc.