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just been to an assesment day with 4x4 response, the lads had a lot of experience offroad, and with recovery, once all the "lessons " were over it was playtime must admit it surprised me how good the surf was at proper offroading, hillclimbs etc, one lad had terminal water ingress in his landy, nearly all landy,s and they did say how impressed they were with the surf.will try and upload some pics. this is the muddiest ive had it
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