new project 21"lift 3.9 v8 surf

[lord_flashart]

Hey Bushwacker, did you get up that? Look s a bit mental!

What mods and tyres do you have for that?

[BUSHWHACKER]

S'not mine, it belongs/belonged to Greebo, a member on here.

[lord_flashart]

Fair enough, it would appear that he's trying to drive up things most people won't yet he hasn't opted for the enormous tyres option.

Just wondering if he had lockers etc. or if he's just the Daddy of offroading and doesn't need the mods normal mortals do?!


Thanks,

Ray.

[s car go]

David
Could you let me have the No for your brother please?? I'm in the market for a 4.6 HSE Lump!!

Thanks

Mark

[jetskidavid]

David
Could you let me have the No for your brother please?? I'm in the market for a 4.6 HSE Lump!!

Thanks

Mark

He's buying more on second of may only got 2 3.9 left but not complete
He's tidying up his yard scraping everything it seems!!!

[popuptoaster]

How do you get round the DVLAs rules about not chopping the chassis or altering the suspension pick up points? i had some plans for my Vitara but have been scuppered by the red tape.

[TonyN]

Never had any trouble before, converted leaf spring trucks to coils, solid axle swaps instead of IFS fronts, fitted longer rear leaves, etc... Not had any trouble.

Know of shortened pickups (not just bobtailed, shortened wheel base)

Every serious Zuki owner fits Toyota axles!

This is even less trouble TBH, its just one chassis fixed on top of another, nothings changed on how the suspension fits, or the body.

At the end of the day at very worse you have to SVA it and get a Q reg plate. Most of these rules where to stop people building kits cars and trying to reg them as the year of the original car, there is a points system for how much you can change and not SVA it, sometimes it catches out the LR guys, who try and coil spring and re-engine old series LR's.

Unless somethings changed these are the rules..

chassis or body shell (body and chassis as one unit - monocoque ie direct replacement from the manufacturer) (original or new) = 5 points
suspension = 2 points
axles = 2 points
transmission = 2 points
steering assembly = 2 points
engine = 1 point

If you reach 8 points, then you need to SVA/IVA the car, if not don't worry about it. (or don't tell them )

[s car go]

He's buying more on second of may only got 2 3.9 left but not complete
He's tidying up his yard scraping everything it seems!!!

Thanks David
Let me know if he gets one please!!

Cheers

[popuptoaster]

I dont think anythings changed, i think its cos the MOT and insurance databases are avalaible for the DVLA computers to pick up on, the 8 points MUST include 5 for an unmodified chassis or monocoque i was told, SVA no longer exists its IVA and BIVA now which are a lot stricter. :S

bobtailing a chassis or altering its main structure is specifically banned, pretty much restricted to bolt on additions, i wanted to make my Vit even shorter than it already is for a laugh, but cant see a way to do it without needing BIVA, and its to much of a pain to get it through the test, plus its more expensive than SVA was.

details are on http://www.the-ace.org.uk/

[TonyN]

I think it's still only really going to effect registering cars, not altering already reg'd ones, modified vehicles are alive and well, just pick up a copy of Total OffRoad every month, there are tons of modified road legal offroaders from Safari trucks to chopped up Zuks.

[popuptoaster]

Maybe, i personally am not willing to risk it, the VOSA man said i could lose the vehicles reg and need to get it tested.

I guess its like anything loads of people will get away with it and a few will get caught, personally i think its a brain dead system, i could drop a 500 bhp V8 in my Vit and be legal, but if i changed the brakes and suspension to cope with the extra power it would need inspection.

[BUSHWHACKER]

I dont think anythings changed, i think its cos the MOT and insurance databases are avalaible for the DVLA computers to pick up on, the 8 points MUST include 5 for an unmodified chassis or monocoque i was told, SVA no longer exists its IVA and BIVA now which are a lot stricter. :S

bobtailing a chassis or altering its main structure is specifically banned, pretty much restricted to bolt on additions, i wanted to make my Vit even shorter than it already is for a laugh, but cant see a way to do it without needing BIVA, and its to much of a pain to get it through the test, plus its more expensive than SVA was.

details are on http://www.the-ace.org.uk/

Well after reading that site, it just seems like a lot of speculation and finger pointing at the moment, nothing is 'set in stone' and the usual SVA test is still used.
is that site linked to the Daily Mail in any way? it seems to be written in much the same sensationalist style.

Anyone who wants to alter their vehicles structure in any way should expect a very thorough enginers report before thier vehicle is allowed on the road to be honest.

[BUSHWHACKER]

Is this unsaleable?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/toyota-hilux-m...item3a65301b6e

[popuptoaster]

Well after reading that site, it just seems like a lot of speculation and finger pointing at the moment, nothing is 'set in stone' and the usual SVA test is still used.
is that site linked to the Daily Mail in any way? it seems to be written in much the same sensationalist style.

Anyone who wants to alter their vehicles structure in any way should expect a very thorough enginers report before thier vehicle is allowed on the road to be honest.

engineers report means nothing to DVLA, they are not interested in safety, only in the vehicles ID and if theres enough of its main structure left to retain its original ID.

If they say there is not, then you have to have the vehicle tested to modern standards, SVA is only used if there is no class in BIVA for your car, most modified cars will be tested under BIVA which is where the safety aspect comes in, and an engineers report wont help there either.

BIVA includes things like minimum radius on exposed edges, metal bumpers and exposed wipers wont pass, nor does anything with roof gutters.


All this stuff is why i gave up on my Vit, it was brought to my attention and since i heard about i have heard of several cars that have been spulled over and inspected and lost their reg's.

It seems mostly confined to mini's, hot rods and landrovers at the moment, but it does apply to EVERYTHING.

Im new on here so thought there might be some loophole the Surf fitted into being an import, but im not so sure now, unless it gets imported already modified.

[BUSHWHACKER]

So there will be no chopping the back off Surfs from now on then, which is a good thing from an aesthetics point of view.

http://www.the-ace.org.uk/BIVA-Pickup-problems.html

It's all a load of ballhooks!