Saggy arse (yes I've searched)

[Benbo]

I've decided my Surf has got a saggy rear end, after all. I don't know whether the ride is good or bad for a 4x4 as this is my first. She feels wallowy, vague and rolls, compared to a normal car...

Anyway, the saggy rear seems like a good place to start. I've searched and found loads of info, though I'm not any clearer about what to do.

Clearly I will need a set of springs but will I definitely need a spring compressor? Opinions seem divided.

I want to solve the rear sag but not at the expense of awful ride, so which should I go for out of:

1. Milners "20% stronger" springs here.

Or

2. Roughtrax's 2" lift springs here.

Or

3. Some other option.

I like the idea of a 2" lift (front to follow?) but not at the expense of ride/performance (my off-roading is limited to farm tracks and fields- not "enthusiast off-roading".) I don't routinely carry heavy loads nor tow.

Therefore, I might just go with the Milner option based on lower price. I wasn't going to do the shocks at this stage...

Thanks for any advice re: spring choice, need for a spring compressor and whether I ought to do the shocks, too (if so which budget option?)?

[andyverran]

Option 3 -

Remove external spare wheel and bracket along with the bumper and tow bar if you have one.
That takes near on 60Kg's of the back of the car.

[woodwarm]

option 4


bobbing the fat ass

[Benbo]

Thanks for the helpful responses!

I think I'll focus on option 1 or 2 at this stage...

[MudSurfer]

Probably option one plus have a look at the shocks. If they are still original (the ones with the wires on to change settings) they have probably had it too, which may go someway to explain the wallowyness.

[J20]

I went for option two a couple of years ago. It is now no less than 5 inches taller at the rear than before as it had sagged so much. I also wound up the torsion bars at the front by two inches. It looked ridiculous until I did that.

It is much stiffer and more confident on the road than before and brilliant for towing and carrying my tools and materials. Still not as reassuring as a car but a bit of body roll is no bad thing - I think of it as a helpful reminder of how high the centre of gravity is when taking corners.

Shocks are on my to do list as I reckon mine have had it. It passed it's roadworthiness test but that checks for imbalance so I'm convinced they are equally bad.

[Benross]

I went for the rough trax 2" springs. Did the rear bushes at the same time.
Handled better, looked better. Only thing I didn't like was when I went over a speed bump, the back bounced over like it had no give in the springs.

That's my 2p's worth anyway

[Sparkie67]

Hi
I fitted the Roughtrax uprated springs, the ride is too hard and crashes/bounces about a lot now.
I have just got off phone from Toyota dealer and had to pick myself up off the floor for the genuine prices. After taking chassis number, and asking if I had rear door spare, front nudge bar and a sunroof etc the price for front springs £329 and rear springs £258.
Does anyone know of a decent supplier who can do standard springs at a standard price. Most dealers don't have it listed in their books. Is it the old Landcruiser chassis and if so which model spring will do if compatible.

Cheers