Homemade Brake Pipes

[hellmett]

re

Hmmmmm!

Thanks for the advice chaps!

This is the tool I got:-

Flaring Tool

I STILL can't seem to get it sorted!

Maybe I'm not preparing the pipe properly!

How important is it to:-

1. Cut tubing off square with tubing cutter, (ok! no brainer, I've got a proper brake pipe cutter!)
2. Deburr tubing with reamer or reamer blade of tubing cutter (?)
3. Chamfer the outer edge of the tubing with file or grinding wheel (??)

I'm getting what looks like a flare BUT it is all lop sided?

Mine doesn't have an indicator of how much pipe to have out of the indentation, anyone know the right protrusion?

Cheers!

Gary

[GRASSMAN]

Gary,

That some times happens when there is too much
pipe thru the flaring bar, it should only come up to
the height of the first step on the die, see my pics.

Gman.

Edit: I've never bothered with 2 & 3

[hellmett]

Gary,

That some times happens when there is too much
pipe thru the flaring bar, it should only come up to
the height of the first step on the die, see my pics.

Gman.

As above mate!

Mine doesn't have any indication of 'how much' on the die!

I've experimented with different amounts by it always seems to be 'wierd' and uneven!

Gary

[BUSHWHACKER]

I think the problem is the amount you paid for it.

[Albannach]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DRAPER-49447-E...item2c5153f4ca

The rest are garbage (IMHO)

When I say 'rest', I mean the ones that use screws as opposed to levers...

[hellmett]

I think the problem is the amount you paid for it.

Yeah, I know it's cheap and nasty but it's a very basic tool after all!

Getting pi55ed off with it now and could be cheaper to get an Auto factors to make the pipe up!

However, I'm a cantankerous bugger and will keep trying until the bitter end!

Gonna try a few more lovingly 'deburred' and 'chamfered' and see does that make a difference!

[Albannach]

Most copper brake pipe is of the soft alloy type, and made for the automotive industry. (cupro nickel)

CuNiFer (Kunifer) is not copper. The question we are answering was whether it was OK to use copper.

[GRASSMAN]

As above mate!

Mine doesn't have any indication of 'how much' on the die!

I've experimented with different amounts by it always seems to be 'wierd' and uneven!

Gary

Gary, look here.
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...e-pipes003.jpg

Gman.

[Albannach]

Gary, the problem with cheap tools is that the former doesn't go on evenly, ever. Now and then, you'll be lucky and get a good flare, but not often. You can't expect to have good flares on a cheap tool the first time you use it.

The one Steve is showing you is a bit better quality than your's and he has made many of them, that's why his look ok.

If you look at a flare made with a £8 tool then look at one made with a £200 tool, you'll see why one costs 25 times more than the other.

[hellmett]

re

Gary, look here.
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...e-pipes003.jpg

Gman.

WOW!

That looks like a lot of pipe sticking out mate!

More that what I been using!

I think I 'may' not be preparing the pipe properly mate!

Do you deburr and chamfer the edge?

Cheers GMan!

Gary

[GRASSMAN]

WOW!

That looks like a lot of pipe sticking out mate!

More that what I been using!

I think I 'may' not be preparing the pipe properly mate!

Do you deburr and chamfer the edge?

Cheers GMan!

Gary

Gary,

It's only to the height of the step on the die, and NO,
never bothered, keep trying mate.

Gman.

[Albannach]

WOW!

That looks like a lot of pipe sticking out mate!

More that what I been using!

What did the instructions say?

What Steve is doing is showing you that, on his flaring tool, the pipe should protrude the same distance as the first shoulder on the die, yours may be different.

It's a specific distance, NOT a guess...

[Albannach]

Do you deburr and chamfer the edge?

The edges should be square, not chamfered. No need to deburr if you've used a pipe cutter.

[BUSHWHACKER]

The edges should be square, not chamfered. No need to deburr if you've used a pipe cutter.

Pipe/tube cutters tend to leave a shoulder on the inside of the pipe though.

[Albannach]

Pipe/tube cutters tend to leave a shoulder on the inside of the pipe though.

Aye, but so long as the tool hasn't been forced, the pilot on the die wil fix the burr.