Scary Brakes!

[hellmett]

re

looking into it, the 2 different sizes of disks refer to the thickness and not the diameter.

I ordered my pads from Milner's at the same time as the disks so they should have sent the right ones, ?

I think my pads sit about 3mm over the edge of the disk.

EDIT

After reading the posts on the Aussie forum I beleive that I have been sent the wrong pads!

I guess I'll have to get some from my local autofactors in the near future!

I presume the pads that are for my LN130 are the DB1346

[dieselboy]

Thanks Nev, great post over on the Aussie site. I should go over there more often.

[TonyN]

I ordered my pads from Milner's at the same time as the disks so they should have sent the right ones, ?

I think my pads sit about 3mm over the edge of the disk.

EDIT

After reading the posts on the Aussie forum I beleive that I have been sent the wrong pads!

I guess I'll have to get some from my local autofactors in the near future!

I presume the pads that are for my LN130 are the DB1346

I honestly think really dosn't matter to much, most factors only stock one size to save on costs. You'll probably have trouble getting anything different unless you go to Toyota.

If you're being that fussy about the little overlap, changing the pads will have the 'correct' ones rubbing on a fresh bit of disc that hasn't worn yet, and is probably rusty and pitted, meaning the pads will be rubbing on the disc 'squint' which is worse then loosing a couple of mm of pad over the edge of the disc.

[NiftyNev]

If you're being that fussy about the little overlap, changing the pads will have the 'correct' ones rubbing on a fresh bit of disc that hasn't worn yet, and is probably rusty and pitted, meaning the pads will be rubbing on the disc 'squint' which is worse then loosing a couple of mm of pad over the edge of the disc.

True. If you replace with the correct pads machining the discs is recommended. Down here we have discovered that most aftermarket catalogues have the DB1149 pads listed for even the latter models with the larger brakes. There must be lots of vehicles down here with the wrong pads in them.

Nev

[NiftyNev]

I presume the pads that are for my LN130 are the DB1346

Yes. May be a different part number over there though. I'll see if I can find the corresponding UK part numbers tonight.

Nev

[NiftyNev]

Not sure yet but take a look at these.

http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/car/p...D+%2893-97%29#

Nev

[NiftyNev]

You can view an actual size diagram here.

http://www.bendix.com.au/User_Upload...287-DB1430.pdf

Nev

[hellmett]

Re

I honestly think really dosn't matter to much, most factors only stock one size to save on costs. You'll probably have trouble getting anything different unless you go to Toyota.

If you're being that fussy about the little overlap, changing the pads will have the 'correct' ones rubbing on a fresh bit of disc that hasn't worn yet, and is probably rusty and pitted, meaning the pads will be rubbing on the disc 'squint' which is worse then loosing a couple of mm of pad over the edge of the disc.

I have just put a set of brand new disks on and it seems logical to have the 'correct' pads on as well.

It probably will be quite a while before the disks 'wear' to the pad size (probably go through lots of pads) but in the article it metioned something about piston placement and pad backing thickness as well.

If these aren't the 'correct' pad then surely it is not very sensible to continue using them for other reasons apart from the 'lip' that overhangs the disk?

Reading through the article suggests that although the pads work they don't work as well as the proper ones and this concerns me.

What are your thoughts?

[TonyN]

I have no issues with my trucks brakes, on 33" tyres, using the 'overlappy' pads I can still lock the fronts up on a dry road if I try, so I have no problems with them.

I'm all for doing things the right way, if you have new discs and can get the right pads then great, but I don't think you'll have have any real world issues with using the 'wrong' pads in this case.

IMHO its a 'technically correct' thing, rather than a 'OMG your going to die' thing.

[NiftyNev]

IMHO its a 'technically correct' thing, rather than a 'OMG your going to die' thing.

I agree. Even though I have the wrong pads I had no trouble locking them up a while ago when I was not paying attention and had to stop very quickly. Change them if you want tom but as Tony says you are not going to die if you don't. One thing that may be of importance though is if you happen to be in an accident, then you may have a problem if the vehicle is checked and found to have the wrong pads, they may use this as an excuse void any insurance, even if the brakes still work fine.

Nev

[dieselboy]

Hellmet did you get all this sorted in the end?

I was thinking earlier and remembered when I changed my pads a while ago that it seemed that the pad was too big (as discussed above). But since mine is an L 1993 shouldn't this have the bigger discs anyway? How would I look this up?
Cheers,

[hellmett]

Re

This is now sorted!

New disks, pads, track rods and wishbone bushes!

I think it was worn wishbone bushes in the end!

Have a look at my other posts you can track the headache in all it's gory detail!

The brakes are sharp as hell now and it steeers great as well.

Just need to get the camber/caster sorted and it'll be good for another 17 years!

I think, like me, you gonna have to use the 'wrong' pads!

You will have the bigger disks anyway!

I'm gonna get the right ones asap cos my disks are new but I would advise sticking to the same pad if you have older disks.

See Nev's info for reasons why!

Gary

[dieselboy]

Thanks for your reply and glad you have it sorted. I just read the thread where you were fiddling about with wishbones... How did you remove them when they are sprung by the torion bars?

[hellmett]

Re

Thanks for your reply and glad you have it sorted. I just read the thread where you were fiddling about with wishbones... How did you remove them when they are sprung by the torion bars?

I popped the top ball joint, removed the ARB, brake caliper etc. and the whole thing swung loose.

Was a bit heavy to manouver but not impossible.

Getting the old bushes out was a bugger!

I eventually got a length of threaded bar and a load of nuts and washers.

Worked GREAT!

Anyhow, at the moment I'm trying to get the camber sorted but I suspect the torsion bars have been wound up so much I can't pull the wheels in enough.

Gonna have to unwind them and see do the wheels pull in.

Gary

[dieselboy]

When we replaced the inner CV boot, we disconnected quite a few bits to get the shaft out. The top wishbone is sprung though, so was a little difficult to get back in as it always wanted to push downwards.
I'm baffled as to how you did that, there must be an easier way which I haven't learnt?