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    Differences between 4Runners and Surfs - parts

    Guys & Girls,
    can you square me up on the following points - information on this stuff is a bit "diffuse" on this site (at least it gave me somwhere to start from) and most others:

    All Qs relate to the 3.0l TD Manual machines. 4Runners reffered to are the UK domestic models, Surfs refer to the Japanese Domestic Market ones.

    1: Apart from AC and undersealing, are there any other major diffs between the 4Runner and Surf at factory-supply level?

    2: What generation are the UK 4Runners?

    3: Can I buy accesories off broken JDM Surfs and stick em on UK 4Runners without cutting and chopping - provided their donor vehicles never had to be chopped and cut to accept the kit in the first case? (Bull Bars, racks, Intercooller bonnets, steering protectors, sump protectors....erm and stuff...)

    4: Is there a difference in Engine Performance between the JDM and UK models? - my Petrol powered JDM Honda is specified higher BHP than the UK equivalent, one reason given was that the Japanese machines are tuned more aggressively to take advantage of their higher RON fuel.

    5: Is there a difference in ride/suspension performance between Surfs and 4Runners?

    6: Should I be bothered about the fact that UK 4Runners might have led a more stressed life due to high speed motorway runs in their lifetime in camparison with their JDM stablemates? I am thinking of nitwitted businesmen whapping it up the motorway at un-deisel like speeds turbos whistling to keep up, then driving to their destinations and stopping the engine without giving turbos time to cool down (associated oil denaturing on the spindles KERCHINGGG etc). I am imagining the Japanese counterpart being stuck in heavier traffic/more heavily speed restricted so not getting a chance to stress out the engine..Yes..i might be a bit naive , but at least I am askin!

    7: Is there ANYWHERE where there is still a spec list of what came as standard on a GS and a GX UK 4Runner, I couldnt find a single place?


    I look forward to your comments!
    Udhi

    Note to self: No coffee or sugar after 21:00Hrs again.....EVER
    Last edited by ChasesDragons; 13 April 2004, 01:56.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by ChasesDragons
    Guys & Girls,
    can you square me up on the following points - information on this stuff is a bit "diffuse" on this site (at least it gave me somwhere to start from) and most others:

    All Qs relate to the 3.0l TD Manual machines. 4Runners reffered to are the UK domestic models, Surfs refer to the Japanese Domestic Market ones.

    1: Apart from AC and undersealing, are there any other major diffs between the 4Runner and Surf at factory-supply level?

    2: What generation are the UK 4Runners?

    3: Can I buy accesories off broken JDM Surfs and stick em on UK 4Runners without cutting and chopping - provided their donor vehicles never had to be chopped and cut to accept the kit in the first case? (Bull Bars, racks, Intercooller bonnets, steering protectors, sump protectors....erm and stuff...)

    4: Is there a difference in Engine Performance between the JDM and UK models? - my Petrol powered JDM Honda is specified higher BHP than the UK equivalent, one reason given was that the Japanese machines are tuned more aggressively to take advantage of their higher RON fuel.

    5: Is there a difference in ride/suspension performance between Surfs and 4Runners?

    6: Should I be bothered about the fact that UK 4Runners might have led a more stressed life due to high speed motorway runs in their lifetime in camparison with their JDM stablemates? I am thinking of nitwitted businesmen whapping it up the motorway at un-deisel like speeds turbos whistling to keep up, then driving to their destinations and stopping the engine without giving turbos time to cool down (associated oil denaturing on the spindles KERCHINGGG etc). I am imagining the Japanese counterpart being stuck in heavier traffic/more heavily speed restricted so not getting a chance to stress out the engine..Yes..i might be a bit naive , but at least I am askin!

    7: Is there ANYWHERE where there is still a spec list of what came as standard on a GS and a GX UK 4Runner, I couldnt find a single place?


    I look forward to your comments!
    Udhi

    Note to self: No coffee or sugar after 21:00Hrs again.....EVER
    UK 4Runner http://www.yotasurf-online.co.uk/pub...achmentid=3896


    http://www.yotasurf-online.co.uk/pub...achmentid=3894
    Last edited by gemini; 13 April 2004, 02:27.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by ChasesDragons
      Guys & Girls,
      can you square me up on the following points - information on this stuff is a bit "diffuse" on this site (at least it gave me somwhere to start from) and most others:

      All Qs relate to the 3.0l TD Manual machines. 4Runners reffered to are the UK domestic models, Surfs refer to the Japanese Domestic Market ones.

      1: Apart from AC and undersealing, are there any other major diffs between the 4Runner and Surf at factory-supply level? No major diffs

      2: What generation are the UK 4Runners? 2nd Gen

      3: Can I buy accesories off broken JDM Surfs and stick em on UK 4Runners without cutting and chopping - provided their donor vehicles never had to be chopped and cut to accept the kit in the first case? (Bull Bars, racks, Intercooller bonnets, steering protectors, sump protectors....erm and stuff...) Yes

      4: Is there a difference in Engine Performance between the JDM and UK models? - my Petrol powered JDM Honda is specified higher BHP than the UK equivalent, one reason given was that the Japanese machines are tuned more aggressively to take advantage of their higher RON fuel.

      5: Is there a difference in ride/suspension performance between Surfs and 4Runners? Many Surfs have electrically adjustable Shocks

      6: Should I be bothered about the fact that UK 4Runners might have led a more stressed life due to high speed motorway runs in their lifetime in camparison with their JDM stablemates? I am thinking of nitwitted businesmen whapping it up the motorway at un-deisel like speeds turbos whistling to keep up, then driving to their destinations and stopping the engine without giving turbos time to cool down (associated oil denaturing on the spindles KERCHINGGG etc). I am imagining the Japanese counterpart being stuck in heavier traffic/more heavily speed restricted so not getting a chance to stress out the engine..Yes..i might be a bit naive , but at least I am askin!

      7: Is there ANYWHERE where there is still a spec list of what came as standard on a GS and a GX UK 4Runner, I couldnt find a single place?


      I look forward to your comments!
      Udhi

      Note to self: No coffee or sugar after 21:00Hrs again.....EVER
      Maurice
      Hilux Surf FAQ at www.hiluxsurf.eu

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      • #4
        Thnx guys,
        Gemini, thats an interesting list, I was actually hoping to see some kind of a sales pitch telling us the actual spec difference between the GS and the GX models of the UK 4-Runner.

        Morr, leccy suspension - have you guys used it? is it worth it? i.e do you guys really use it in your everyday driving?

        I honestly expected to incite a riot with the message.....but as they say the night is still young......

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ChasesDragons
          ....Morr, leccy suspension - have you guys used it? is it worth it? i.e do you guys really use it in your everyday driving?....
          Personally I generally leave it on soft, unless well laden, others prefer to leave it on most of the time. All down to personal prefference really. On the 3rd Gen's its active on all four corners, altough on the 2nd Gen's I think its only on the rear, perhaps one of the others will confirm/refute this??
          Maurice
          Hilux Surf FAQ at www.hiluxsurf.eu

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          • #6
            it is only on the rear, it gets quite bumpy with it set to hard, almost like a a suzi SJ
            [COLOR=red]Simon [/COLOR] '91 2.4td ssr-x

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            • #7
              6: Should I be bothered about the fact that UK 4Runners might have led a more stressed life due to high speed motorway runs in their lifetime in camparison with their JDM stablemates? I am thinking of nitwitted businesmen whapping it up the motorway at un-deisel like speeds turbos whistling to keep up, then driving to their destinations and stopping the engine without giving turbos time to cool down (associated oil denaturing on the spindles KERCHINGGG etc). I am imagining the Japanese counterpart being stuck in heavier traffic/more heavily speed restricted so not getting a chance to stress out the engine..Yes..i might be a bit naive , but at least I am askin!
              a lot of people seem to imagine "JAPAN" as being a huge city where the traffic never moves... i've never been there, but from the pics i've seen the surfs seem to be used for pretty much the same over there as over here... even towing caravans... i looked on a map and japan seems to be a quite a big gaff, and probably has some country side too!
              nee nar nee nar, i'm a fire engine!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dabigman
                6: Should I be bothered about the fact that UK 4Runners might have led a more stressed life due to high speed motorway runs in their lifetime in camparison with their JDM stablemates? I am thinking of nitwitted businesmen whapping it up the motorway at un-deisel like speeds turbos whistling to keep up, then driving to their destinations and stopping the engine without giving turbos time to cool down (associated oil denaturing on the spindles KERCHINGGG etc). I am imagining the Japanese counterpart being stuck in heavier traffic/more heavily speed restricted so not getting a chance to stress out the engine..Yes..i might be a bit naive , but at least I am askin!
                a lot of people seem to imagine "JAPAN" as being a huge city where the traffic never moves... i've never been there, but from the pics i've seen the surfs seem to be used for pretty much the same over there as over here... even towing caravans... i looked on a map and japan seems to be a quite a big gaff, and probably has some country side too!
                they certainly like their off-roading
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                • #9
                  From

                  http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/ca...x?range_id=327

                  Toyota 4-Runner (1994-1996) Model History
                  01/10/1993
                  4-Runner 3.0 V6 (141 bhp) and 3.0 TD (123 bhp) Estates launched in UK with 5-speed gearbox, dual-ratio transfer box, selectable 4-wheel drive, limited slip differential, independent front suspension, PAS, alloy wheels, tinted glass, split rear seats, electric sunroof/windows, central locking, 6-speaker stereo.
                  01/05/1995
                  3.0 TD GS launched in UK with remote central locking, alarm/immobiliser, electric sunroof/windows/mirrors. Former 3.0 TD model is now badged 3.0 TD GX and has side running boards, alloy wheels and extended wheel-arches.

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                  • #10
                    See what you mean, that was an embarrassing bit of national stereotipy on my behalf!, of course they got country side apart from Neon cities and Karate Dojos - my apologies!

                    And, Gemini...was it really neccesary to scare me with that mud picture dude??! totally paranoid now...lol

                    Elvz, thnx for the Parkers guide link matey - that did make sense. I have been used to searching in the fringees for JDM car info that I have totally forgotten where to look for mainstream car info.

                    Thnx everyone who replied - and keep em coming pls.

                    Udhi

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