Ummmm.... This is embarrassing

[mark g8awo]

You can obtain wheel nut indicators from most truck spares factors....

They could save your life.

[marky]

Iff You Cant See My Mirrors I Cant See You! Lol

[Elvz]

"You can obtain wheel nut indicators from most truck spares factors...."


Don't use them on our commercial fleet coz they're a waste of money but wouldn't fit any of the alloy Toyota wheels anyway because the fixing holes are recessed

[da SLUG man]

"You can obtain wheel nut indicators from most truck spares factors...."


Don't use them on our commercial fleet coz they're a waste of money but wouldn't fit any of the alloy Toyota wheels anyway because the fixing holes are recessed

and they're bright yellow!... would look like spokey dokeys!

[JimL]

The actual reason for the wheel studs breaking was that the Surf was fitted with Land Cruiser 16"x8" rims with sleeve and washer type nuts and these sleeves were 4mm too long so even when they were correctly torqued down they allowed the rims to slide on the sleeves until we butchered them with an impact gun on full power

I've read this a few times and still am not sure you mean Elvz. Was it that the nuts which are closed at the outer end, were wound fully onto the stud until the stud met the outer end of the nut, but the inner end of the nut/washer still wasnt making contact with the rim????

I've got some alloys to put on my surf and need to go and find new nuts, do they need washers or not???

[marky]

that all depends on the type of wheel you are fitting

[TonyN]

I've read this a few times and still am not sure you mean Elvz. Was it that the nuts which are closed at the outer end, were wound fully onto the stud until the stud met the outer end of the nut, but the inner end of the nut/washer still wasnt making contact with the rim????

I've got some alloys to put on my surf and need to go and find new nuts, do they need washers or not???

Jim, the stub was too long, so the closed end of the nut was tight on the end of the wheel stud, but the wheel wasn't clamped.

Do the nuts up without a wheel on, measure how much thread is left exposed between the nut and the hub, if the wheel is thicker than this measurement, you're in the clear.

[Morr]

Jim, the stub was too long, so the closed end of the nut was tight on the end of the wheel stud, but the wheel wasn't clamped.

Do the nuts up without a wheel on, measure how much thread is left exposed between the nut and the hub, if the wheel is thicker than this measurement, you're in the clear.

Are you sure on this Tony, sounds to me like it was the type of nut which has a sleeve which entends thru the bolt hole, as its designed for an alloy wheel which does not have a steel insert to bear the load of the nut. The sleeve spreads the load thru the wheel and when fully torqued touches (or almost touches the front face of the hub. In this case the sleeve portion on the nut was too long for the thickness of material in the wheel, so when tightened fully, the sleeve made contact with the face of the hub before the washer portion of the nut made contact with the front face of the wheel, thereby allowing the wheel to slide on the sleeve, untill as Elvz said they overtightened the nuts, no doubt leading to distortion of the sleeve until the wheel was firmly clamped.

I'm sure Elvz will be along to clarify.

[Morr]

.....I've got some alloys to put on my surf and need to go and find new nuts, do they need washers or not???

Depends on the differences between the alloys and your original setup. In your case, the original steel rims will have (I presume) conventional nuts with a taper on the inner face. If the alloys you are fitting have a steel insert in each bolt hole and a taper in the outer face, then your original nuts will probably suffice.
Alloys without such inserts usually require a nut with some form of captive washer and/or sleeve to spread the load.

Additionally, ensure that sufficient thread extends thru the new wheel to ensure any nuts will have sufficient grip. If the material in the bolt face of the new wheel is substantially thicher that the previous wheel, it may be that insufficient threads now protrude to enable safe installation of the nut.

[TonyN]

Morr, yeah, I was talking about the nuts for steel wheels, forgot we were talking about alloys, but having said that, the nut sleeves for my alloys on the pickup are to long for the alloys, I have washers on them, the locking wheel nuts I bought needed to washers as they where a little longer still.

Its the same principal, like you said, if the sleeves on the nuts are to long, they will do up tight, but the wheel will float on the sleeves.

Doing the nuts up tigher to try and tighen the wheel just leads to sheared studs

[ohsupremebeing]

nuts

They do say, that the weakest point on a car is the nut that holds the wheel.

[TonyN]

They do say, that the weakest point on a car is the nut that holds the wheel.

You've met Marky then?

[ohsupremebeing]

nuts

going to meet him on thursday night at manchester meet and greet do i need to worry

[marky]

no chris he's winding you up

[ohsupremebeing]

nuts

good to hear mark will put baseball bat away then lol see u thursday