Changing auto box fluid

[phorbiuz]

I've done a service on the Surf today - fuel/air/oil filters, thermostat, coolant, engine oil, front & rear diff oil, and transfer oil. (I'm going to let the garage do the belts).

My problem is the auto gearbox oil. I only have the engine manual and owners book, so I have nothing which shows this. I think I located the drain plug no problem, but I can't find where you'd insert the fresh Dexron II. I'll be towing my caravan on Saturday so I'd like to get this done to be on the safe side.

I'd like to attach some pics, but when I click on the ''insert image" icon, I get a prompt to insert text for formatting rather than the capability to insert a picture.

Anyone tell me where to top up?

Thanks.

[marky]

on the autobox there is 2 bolts one at the bottom for draining + 1 on the side of the box for filling once it starts coming out of the side its full

[Driver]

Hi,
Might be a bit late now !! But Topping up & Refilling after a Drain is done through the Autobox Dipstick Holder ! Use a Small Funnel and put a few rags around it to catch any spills Check and try to measure out total required for fill before Starting.
Andy.

[marky]

Hi,
Might be a bit late now !! But Topping up & Refilling after a Drain is done through the Autobox Dipstick Holder ! Use a Small Funnel and put a few rags around it to catch any spills Check and try to measure out total required for fill before Starting.
Andy.

Did'nt think of that one

[gemini]

on the autobox there is 2 bolts one at the bottom for draining + 1 on the side of the box for filling once it starts coming out of the side its full

if only it was that simple, draining it wont get the oil out of the torque converter

see here for full info http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dorothy...bemx/p_m20.htm

[scousy]

if only it was that simple, draining it wont get the oil out of the torque converter

see here for full info http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dorothy...bemx/p_m20.htm

excellent link !!!!!!!

[Nick V]

if only it was that simple, draining it wont get the oil out of the torque converter

see here for full info http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dorothy...bemx/p_m20.htm

Agree, really good link. However, has anyone here actually done this?

Cheers, Nick

[phorbiuz]

Not so sure I should append this to the original question, but I will... I'll see what the response is before posting it under its own banner.

Firstly, big thanks to those who replied with the info I needed - I used the dipstick filler plug. Now for my next question.

Anyone know the correct procedure for measuring how much fluid is in the box for a KZN130 3.0TD? What I drained out was fairly OK, but there was only about 3L.

I've dug out the procedure for an LN series diesel which says to get it hot, and whilst idling, put it in N, select each gear then back to N, and measure the dipstick. If its not in the hot range top up. Thing is, I'm putting in a lot more than came out - 4L so far.

I'm nervous about this method as I've never known levels to be checked while they're actually circulating with the engine running.

So can anyone confirm the correct way to measure?

Thanks.

[Morr]

Not so sure I should append this to the original question, but I will... I'll see what the response is before posting it under its own banner.

Firstly, big thanks to those who replied with the info I needed - I used the dipstick filler plug. Now for my next question.

Anyone know the correct procedure for measuring how much fluid is in the box for a KZN130 3.0TD? What I drained out was fairly OK, but there was only about 3L.

I've dug out the procedure for an LN series diesel which says to get it hot, and whilst idling, put it in N, select each gear then back to N, and measure the dipstick. If its not in the hot range top up. Thing is, I'm putting in a lot more than came out - 4L so far.

I'm nervous about this method as I've never known levels to be checked while they're actually circulating with the engine running.

So can anyone confirm the correct way to measure?

Thanks.

Can't say 100% that its correct for the 3L, but its the method I use, and is the official method on all other autos I've previously owned.

[europa88]

Not so sure I should append this to the original question, but I will... I'll see what the response is before posting it under its own banner.

Firstly, big thanks to those who replied with the info I needed - I used the dipstick filler plug. Now for my next question.

Anyone know the correct procedure for measuring how much fluid is in the box for a KZN130 3.0TD? What I drained out was fairly OK, but there was only about 3L.

I've dug out the procedure for an LN series diesel which says to get it hot, and whilst idling, put it in N, select each gear then back to N, and measure the dipstick. If its not in the hot range top up. Thing is, I'm putting in a lot more than came out - 4L so far.


I'm nervous about this method as I've never known levels to be checked while they're actually circulating with the engine running.

So can anyone confirm the correct way to measure?

Thanks.

That is the right way to measure ie. when hot and engine running, i too was concerned about this but although It is a pain, put small amounts in and then recheck! ( i guess the atf fluid going in is cold and would need to also get hot to give an accurate level) Was it low to start with?? ie. before you drained!

However this method will not change all the fluid as the torque converter cannot be emptied just by draining( and It contains a fair bit of fluid)
Check out the link above!
Cheers
Neil

[Guest]

That is the right way to measure ie. when hot and engine running, i too was concerned about this but although It is a pain, put small amounts in and then recheck! ( i guess the atf fluid going in is cold and would need to also get hot to give an accurate level) Was it low to start with?? ie. before you drained!

However this method will not change all the fluid as the torque converter cannot be emptied just by draining( and It contains a fair bit of fluid)
Check out the link above!
Cheers
Neil

If you don't check it with the engine running you get a false high reading because the pumps / Torque Converter won't have the correct amount in (especially if the car has stood for a few hours - ATF fluid is relatively thin and drains down quickly. The way the measuring is set on the Toyota box is that the level has to be the level that the car runs at. Some other manufacturers (Ford for instance) you measure the level with the box cold and with the fluid at the the level with the pumps empty. The level will drop when running and if you measured it with the engine running you would get a false low reading.

Cheers