Starting issues

[AlexKzn130]

So just to clarify the non starting is random and will start from cold ok?

See if you can see where the immobiliser is and trace out the wiring and disconnect it.

No hints given as to where it should or could be to, lets not give the thieving scum bags any help.
If tracing out the immobiliser worries you then you will have to rely on the skills of an auto electrician.
Get them to isolate the immobiliser and see if that solves your problem.

It happened again on a cold start this email time I recorded it, u may wanna turn the volume up to hear the engine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rye...e_gdata_player

[TonyN]

Put your immobiliser fob on a bit of cord, then you won't have to keep taking the keys out!

Most immobilers don't reset that quick, you should get a couple of goes at starting it.

Batteries don't sound overly charged, but hard to tell.

[AlexKzn130]

Put your immobiliser fob on a bit of cord, then you won't have to keep taking the keys out!

Most immobilers don't reset that quick, you should get a couple of goes at starting it.

Batteries don't sound overly charged, but hard to tell.

Yea it's always annoyed me having to take the keys out lol AA have checked the batteries got a print out there good jus I had been trying to start it for a while when I made the video so they were probably getting the weak.
Think this is gonna have to be a garage job I don't wanna start buying starters or whatever and it turns out not to be the problem :-(

[TonyN]

Did the AA disconnect one of the batteries when testing them?

You'll only get an average of both if not, and can hide a duff one.

Dosn't sound like you're average starter motor issue, they either just click when the contacts go, just spin fastwithout turning engine if the bendix is stuck, or turn slowly or not at all if the motor is stuffed.

The immobiliser isn't normally hard to disconnect, it's normally pretty obvious which ignition wires have been cut when you look behind the dash.

[shokenore]

I would agree with TonyN those batteries don't seem that healthy.

Get a multimeter on the batteries and see what voltage you have.

[AlexKzn130]

Did the AA disconnect one of the batteries when testing them?

no he tested each one in the car i think i recall after the engine running for about a minute each one showed about 13v

ill disconnect them tomorrow and test them myself

[NiftyNev]

no he tested each one in the car i think i recall after the engine running for about a minute each one showed about 13v

ill disconnect them tomorrow and test them myself

Most of these guys do not have a clue when dual batteries are involved. Same here with the RACQ. I had battery trouble a while ago and all I wanted was a jumpstart. He tested them but also did it all the wrong way. I am now using the one good battery. The other was dead. His test showed both were bad because they were still connected together. Redid the test myself the right way the next morning.

Nev.

[shokenore]

Right then, so now we have eliminated the cold or hot start question.The starting issue is random? Yes ?

When the RAC got it to work did they jump start it?
If they jump started it and it turned over did it start ok?

If you have a battery charger, could you leave it on a trickle charge over night and see how it starts the next morning?

Have you checked the battery terminals are nice and clean and not loose and corroded?
Same for the alternator belts are they correctly tensioned?

[AlexKzn130]

Right then, so now we have eliminated the cold or hot start question.The starting issue is random? Yes ?

When the RAC got it to work did they jump start it?
If they jump started it and it turned over did it start ok?

If you have a battery charger, could you leave it on a trickle charge over night and see how it starts the next morning?

Have you checked the battery terminals are nice and clean and not loose and corroded?
Same for the alternator belts are they correctly tensioned?

Yea it seems random although it's now completely fooled hasn't started for 48 hours
AA never fixed it, I call them and they took best part of an hour to arrive so I had a coffee in the cafe over the road when they arrived to inspect the problem car started first time and made me look like a fool, the aa guy tested the batts out of good will I'm gonna test my batts today and check all the connections, I'll update accordingly

[captain_chaos]

Having similar issues with my truck (ln130) went to start it tonight, but slow and dead turnover without firing up. I'll admit it was stood for about two weeks, but even with a boost off my car still no joy. Think I've got the same immobiliser as you, small fob with 3 points on it.

[AlexKzn130]

Yea that's the same design as mine I think it's quite a common design though

[AlexKzn130]

Have you checked the battery terminals are nice and clean and not loose and corroded?
Same for the alternator belts are they correctly tensioned?

Checked the terminals, quite greasy but I think they've always been like that checked the batteries myself disconnected from the car there both showing about 12.40v so it's not them :-(

[shokenore]

Get a garage to do a drop test on the batteries.
If they are dubious get some new ones.