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  • #61
    Originally posted by Apache View Post
    And it rained all weekend.
    it was lovely and sunny down here
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/henpals/

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    • #62
      HEY, IT HAS BECOME A GOOD THREAD

      I can see my thread has grown into a useful information platform thanks to all of you who posted here. Even the few sharp words exchanged do not spoil it in my opinion.

      My test confirmed TonyN's graph. The voltage stays constant for 180-200sec on a cold start. There was no drop in voltage and I can not test the amperage (current) since I have sold my KZN185.

      I decided to keep my LN130 2.4 2T-LE instead. The KZN185 has more power and batter ride but feels more like a car... Unlike the LN130 that feels like a proper JEEP; TRUCK; what ever you want to call it... or may be it's just me getting old and preferring earlier model instead of a later one... I hope that will change and I will get a 2000-2001 SURF one day...

      Meanwhile if anyone conducts the amperage test please post the results here. I am very curious to find out if the amperage drops at some point during this 200sec period.

      Thanks again
      Last edited by allfriends; 8 September 2008, 17:54. Reason: Smilie did not come out

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      • #63
        Originally posted by allfriends View Post
        Meanwhile if anyone conducts the amperage test please post the results here. I am very curious to find out if the amperage drops at some point during this 200sec period.

        Thanks again
        If the volts applied to the plugs remains the same, the current (amps) remains the same too.
        Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Apache View Post
          If the volts applied to the plugs remains the same, the current (amps) remains the same too.
          Unless the resistance increases as temp rises?

          Not saying that as a fact, only that it's possible for heat to change parameters.

          Rob.

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          • #65
            Glow Plugs

            I took a load test last night on my 3ltr 1998 3rd Gen auto Surf and it was about 32 to 33 amps steady, then it timed out after about 35 secs as the engine was not stone cold.
            The resistance of the plugs is 1 ohm each.

            Hope this helps.

            Mike

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            • #66
              Conclusion

              Thanks Mike.

              OK so we can conclude that there is no 2 stage heating in the KZN185 and may be that goes for KZN135 since they both use the same engine.

              There is no need for turning the ignition key on and off to get extra heating - just waiting 20secs (or more in the Winter) will ensure proper heating and easy start.

              ...Eeeeerrrm unless Matt has a different opinion...

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              • #67
                Allfriends.

                That seems to button it up.
                I somewhat thought that all along but as you indicated someone will disagree with us and come up with some other idea.
                I did not think Toyota were as silly as have you turn the key on off on off a few times it is just plain stupid to even think that way.
                Just imagine living in North America or northern Canada, you would have to change the ignition switch every few weeks as it would be worn out.

                Lastly , all I can say is that is how MINE works, as sure as god made little green apples, someone will have a "SPECAL".

                Best regards./

                Mike

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by allfriends View Post
                  ...Eeeeerrrm unless Matt has a different opinion...
                  Nope. Facts are facts.


                  Originally posted by muller1 View Post
                  I did not think Toyota were as silly as have you turn the key on off on off a few times it is just plain stupid to even think that way.
                  You're not taking into account the fact that it will preheat the chamber more before you start firing diesel in, however. (As to whether that makes a notable difference, I've no idea). Granted, judging by the info that's been posted, it would appear that just leaving it longer to heat before firing the engine would also achieve that effect. T'would be a tad annoying doing that with the 2.4, however.

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                  • #69
                    Mattf

                    Re. your first para.
                    It is impossible to destroy energy, therefor the pre heat wattage / energy put in to the swept area of the cylinder by electrical means remains the same with or without the introduction of diesel fuel.

                    Re. the second statement, I am sorry but I do not grasp what you mean.

                    Mike

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by muller1 View Post
                      Re. your first para.
                      It is impossible to destroy energy, therefor the pre heat wattage / energy put in to the swept area of the cylinder by electrical means remains the same with or without the introduction of diesel fuel.
                      Metal acts as a heatsink. Fcuks sake, stop being argumentative for the sake of it. Did I mention any of that crap you posted above? No. Also, to be precise, you're referring to the second paragraph, not the first.

                      Re. the second statement, I am sorry but I do not grasp what you mean.
                      It beeps.

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                      • #71
                        Beer destroys energy. So there!
                        Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                        • #72
                          Mattf

                          As one post said. you will always make it look (if only to yourself) you are gods gift and always correct.
                          Get a grip on life. GET OFF MY CASE AND STOP BEING SO GOD DAM*ED ARROGANT AND ABRASIVE.
                          This is my last post involving you and my last word to you I do not wish ever to have anything to do with you whatsoever.

                          Mike
                          Last edited by muller1; 12 September 2008, 23:24. Reason: I forgot to put name in

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Apache View Post
                            Beer destroys energy. So there!

                            Originally posted by muller1 View Post
                            As one post said. you will always make it look (if only to yourself) you are gods gift and always correct.
                            Get a grip on life. GET OFF MY CASE AND STOP BEING SO GOD DAM*ED ARROGANT AND ABRASIVE.
                            This is my last post involving you and my last word to you I do not wish ever to have anything to do with you whatsoever.

                            Mike
                            Mattf is always correct an he is indeed gods gift...






















                            (Matt.... You brought me Logeys old 1st gen yet?!)












                            (if not .... why not??!)

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by RodLeach View Post
                              :Mattf is always correct an he is indeed gods gift...
                              Only cos he's p1ssed god off so much that he didn't want him where he is
                              Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by RodLeach View Post

                                Mattf is always correct an he is indeed gods gift...
                                (Matt.... You brought me Logeys old 1st gen yet?!)
                                (if not .... why not??!)
                                He's on his way down, with a trailer right now, he's gonna be insufferable now he has a macho 1st Gen.

                                But it least it need quite a bit of fiddling, so hopefully he'll spend more time in the garage than on here.





                                Gawd, just realised, Woodies coming here to meet him as well, one vents hot air from one end, the other from the opposite end of the body!! Help me.
                                4x4toys.co.uk - Keeping you on and off the road...

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