Help Iv'e been fiddling & it will not start !

[minibigs]

Hi,

Hi, Steve here, a newbee who lives in Swindon, Wilts. I picked up my 2.4 surf the other week & since then have been "playing" & have fitted a 110 AH leisure battery, split charge relay,voltmeter,etc, with 125A feed direct to a S socket at the back, ready to run a 1200 Watt inverter I've got to run small power tools off, etc. I've also fitted ciggy lighters off the leisure battery inside, & wired in a Laptop adaptor , phone charger, etc. Also fitted my towbar kit with dual wiring, ready to wire up.
All was going well until lunch today, when I could not resist going out for a play with it on the drive. I "tidied up" my wiring, fitted insulated covers on the battery, etc. To my horror, when I started her up, there was nothing at all in the way of juice comming through, key just turned but no power.

I have isolated all my new wiring & the battery, checked all the fuses I could find (engine bay next to starter battery, drivers side by the door) & all are OK.

Battery is giving out nearly 13 volts, so should be good to start it.

Also, it will not let me remove the key from the ignition unless I disconnect the battery & the back window will not go back up.

This leads me to believe the beast might be fitted with an immobiliser .

I then tried pulling battery earth off for 5 minutes, taking the key out, putting battery back on, locking the car, unlocking & putting the key in the ingition. It still does not want to play.

So, do we have an immobiliser fitted on 'em ? Any other fuses to check for? Any other ideas?

How do I immobilise the immobiliser (if there is such a beast) Where is it?

Failing that, anyone know how to short the starter cables to the ignition or what the wires to it do so I can test ?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve.

[TOYMOTA]

If its an auto you have to have in park or neutral other wise you wont get the key out,or be able to start it.

[Guest]

Hi,

Hi, Steve here, a newbee who lives in Swindon, Wilts. I picked up my 2.4 surf the other week & since then have been "playing" & have fitted a 110 AH leisure battery, split charge relay,voltmeter,etc, with 125A feed direct to a S socket at the back, ready to run a 1200 Watt inverter I've got to run small power tools off, etc. I've also fitted ciggy lighters off the leisure battery inside, & wired in a Laptop adaptor , phone charger, etc. Also fitted my towbar kit with dual wiring, ready to wire up.
All was going well until lunch today, when I could not resist going out for a play with it on the drive. I "tidied up" my wiring, fitted insulated covers on the battery, etc. To my horror, when I started her up, there was nothing at all in the way of juice comming through, key just turned but no power.

I have isolated all my new wiring & the battery, checked all the fuses I could find (engine bay next to starter battery, drivers side by the door) & all are OK.

Battery is giving out nearly 13 volts, so should be good to start it.

Also, it will not let me remove the key from the ignition unless I disconnect the battery & the back window will not go back up.

This leads me to believe the beast might be fitted with an immobiliser .

I then tried pulling battery earth off for 5 minutes, taking the key out, putting battery back on, locking the car, unlocking & putting the key in the ingition. It still does not want to play.

So, do we have an immobiliser fitted on 'em ? Any other fuses to check for? Any other ideas?

How do I immobilise the immobiliser (if there is such a beast) Where is it?

Failing that, anyone know how to short the starter cables to the ignition or what the wires to it do so I can test ?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Steve.

Steve.

There isn't an immobiliser fitted as standard on the 2.4 but that is not to say that one hasn't been fitted.

As a start I would see if I could turn over the starter by shorting the starter contact to earth, that would prove power to the starter solenoid.

From then on you are going to have to take things one step at a time, check for power on the back of the ignition switch, have a look if there are any extra cables that have been run that might point to an immobiliser, check all fuses again.

After that I think it is down to a wiring diagram and working through things logically.

Cheers

[hormygollop]

If its an auto you have to have in park or neutral other wise you wont get the key out,or be able to start it.

[minibigs]

DUh !!!!

Yes, it is an auto & guess who moved the stick to get at the front lower dash ?

Still, might as well make an idiot of yourself to start with, my future posts can't be as bad !

Thanks for all your help & I was amazed at the speed of reply.

Cheers,

Steve.

[TOYMOTA]

No problem matey.

[kitesurf_phil]

What's so funny Keith? Micks answer seemed totally sensible to me. Even if the truck is in Neutral or Park, the switch or the relay that says it is may be duff.

[kitesurf_phil]

You all beat me to it! I rest my case Glad its OK Steve.

[Linda]

What's so funny Keith? Micks answer seemed totally sensible to me. Even if the truck is in Neutral or Park, the switch or the relay that says it is may be duff.

I was gonna suggest he look for the switch on the dashboard - but I thought Keith might get all upset!!! and this is the Technical forum so we might get told off for being silly in here...

[minibigs]

Blush from a newbie

I will also admit to falling for the "****** tailgate window don't work, wait till I get hold of the dealer" trick, before realising that there is a window lock on the door control panel !

[kitesurf_phil]

I was gonna suggest he look for the switch on the dashboard - but I thought Keith might get all upset!!! and this is the Technical forum so we might get told off for being silly in here...

Ah well. All's well that ends well (did I read too much Famous Five as a Kid?).
I was not having a serious pop. I just had visions of poor Steve, with his Surf in bits all over the drive and no real help. Maybe I'm feeling a little sensitive today