Toad Ai606 alarm

[boxertwin]

Just bought one and hope to fit Saturday. Any tips for an easy installation?

Phil

[da SLUG man]

Just bought one and hope to fit Saturday. Any tips for an easy installation?

Phil

get a fitter to do it.

[boxertwin]

get a fitter to do it.

no one likes a smart arse

Read the question, I asked for tips on an easy install not how to install. I've fitted alarms many times to both cars and motorbikes. Anyone with a sensible contribution please? I'd be most grateful

phil

[Dog_Book]

Sorry i'd have to agree. If your asking for help on the forum then you might be able to find wiring diagrams, also if your asking this means you don't already know in which case get someone who does.

I got a proper fitter to do mine (Cobra cat1) and he did'nt need any diagrams cos he just knew what he was doing if you know what i mean. Trouble is when you or i bugger up the wiring then have to call a fitter to correct it......

[boxertwin]

Sorry i'd have to agree. If your asking for help on the forum then you might be able to find wiring diagrams, also if your asking this means you don't already know in which case get someone who does.

I got a proper fitter to do mine (Cobra cat1) and he did'nt need any diagrams cos he just knew what he was doing if you know what i mean. Trouble is when you or i bugger up the wiring then have to call a fitter to correct it......

For the avoidance of any doubt!! I do not need diagrams. I simply hoped somebody had fitted a similar device and had any tips on doing so i.e ideas on using the optional outputs.

I have used 'fitters' in the past. One of whom 'fitted' a v.expensive spyball to a ZX10 (180 mph motorcycle). Some weeks later whilst returning from Cadwell Park, the immobiliser cut in .......at 110mph. I was lucky that time. Apologies to the decent fitters out there but I fitted my own from then on and have never had an issue.

Phil

[Dog_Book]

For the avoidance of any doubt!! I do not need diagrams. I simply hoped somebody had fitted a similar device and had any tips on doing so i.e ideas on using the optional outputs.

I have used 'fitters' in the past. One of whom 'fitted' a v.expensive spyball to a ZX10 (180 mph motorcycle). Some weeks later whilst returning from Cadwell Park, the immobiliser cut in .......at 110mph. I was lucky that time. Apologies to the decent fitters out there but I fitted my own from then on and have never had an issue.

Phil

I can see where your coming from LOL. I had the same problem on a Fireblade, it had been fitted under the seat where water would accumilate and since the cat1 alarm had **** case water got in. I had to dry it out twice ans seal it up even after it had been to dealers twice.

I suppose if you could find a really good fitter then they could advise you..... i use Audio Vision in sandiacre

[da SLUG man]

no one likes a smart arse

Read the question, I asked for tips on an easy install not how to install. I've fitted alarms many times to both cars and motorbikes. Anyone with a sensible contribution please? I'd be most grateful

phil

ok, don't have a hernia!...

seriously, i'd get a fitter to do it... you're gonna have to get it certified if you want it to count for your insurance anyway.
the only problem i know is if you immobilise the fuel pump, you can get erroneous signals which will affect the pump timing.

as for aux equipment, i have a total closure unit on an A606i which is connected to the rear window so i can lower and raise it remotely... handy when you've got 10 shopping bags and a 2 year old... also got the microwave proximity sensor which is a bit erratic (sometimes it do, sometimes it don't)

[The Mighty WAH]

Fitting Alarm Systems

I've watched two alarm systems being installed by specialist companies to my vehicles. One to my Blade a few years ago and a Toad system to my SURF. I am not a sparks so would never attempt this myself, but the one common thing in watching both these guys was that they solder every single connection they make. They both told me this was the only way to ensure that they do not get called back. Regarding systems failing on bikes the guy fitted the control unit under the tank stretched across the frame between 4 tywraps. This restrained it, but allowed an element of flexibility. Said he never bolted control units on bikes as the vibration upsets them too much. Needless to say both these system never ever gave any trouble. I had the Blade for 3 years and have had the SURF for nearly two.

Colin

[boxertwin]

ok, don't have a hernia!...

seriously, i'd get a fitter to do it... you're gonna have to get it certified if you want it to count for your insurance anyway.
the only problem i know is if you immobilise the fuel pump, you can get erroneous signals which will affect the pump timing.

as for aux equipment, i have a total closure unit on an A606i which is connected to the rear window so i can lower and raise it remotely... handy when you've got 10 shopping bags and a 2 year old... also got the microwave proximity sensor which is a bit erratic (sometimes it do, sometimes it don't)

O.K Matt, no hernia, but I feel a headache coming on. I've become suspicious of experts over the years. I tend to do most things myself. The rear window sounds a good idea.

Phil

[boxertwin]

I've watched two alarm systems being installed by specialist companies to my vehicles. One to my Blade a few years ago and a Toad system to my SURF. I am not a sparks so would never attempt this myself, but the one common thing in watching both these guys was that they solder every single connection they make. They both told me this was the only way to ensure that they do not get called back. Regarding systems failing on bikes the guy fitted the control unit under the tank stretched across the frame between 4 tywraps. This restrained it, but allowed an element of flexibility. Said he never bolted control units on bikes as the vibration upsets them too much. Needless to say both these system never ever gave any trouble. I had the Blade for 3 years and have had the SURF for nearly two.

Colin

Agree with soldered joints - only way to ensure a permanent connection. Interesting point about the flexible fitting of the control unit on the blade, makes a lot of sense. If I remember correctly- I had a datatool (fitted by experts!!) on a zxr750 which was bolted in place. We were all packed up ready to leave Le Mans (late with a ferry to catch), pouring with rain and guess whose bike wouldn't start? immobiliser would not disconnect!! Spent twenty minutes butchering the loom, got the alarm out and binned it. Not had an alarm on a bike since.. didn't realise we had so many bikers on the board. What are you riding now?

Phil

[The Mighty WAH]

Dangerous on a Blade!

Managed to throw my Blade over a roundabout, me left laying in the road wondering where my bike had disappeared to!
Have a year old CBR 600F, these were being sold-off by Honda last winter so jumped in and got one. Had one of the old steel-framed ones in the 90s and liked it, but these have really moved on since gaining the ali chassis and fuel injection. Ride this all the year to work, and to the occasional bike meeting.
I'm a bit of a Jeckle & Hyde, boring old fart dragging a caravan around @ 2000rpm and a complete maniac on a bike @ 14,000rpm- probably because nobody can see how old I am with the lid on!

Colin