Anti-roll bar linkage

[johnsiddle]

MOT failure.. 'Nearside Rear, Anti-roll bar linkage excessive play in a pin/bush'
Where do you think this part is?

Is it just at the ends of the bar or is there a linkage like the tie bar in the front.?

[muddle]

Generally the rubber piece that bolts through the chassis, can be the ball joint too but usually the other. If you cant afford it right now and need mot asap, remove the entire anti roll bar and links. Cant fail it if its not there.

[BUSHWHACKER]

http://www.roughtrax4x4.com/?doc=16&cid=162&vid=962

[johnsiddle]

Thanks

http://www.roughtrax4x4.com/?doc=16&cid=162&vid=962

Thanks Bushwacker, I call that a tie rod so that makes a bit more sense and easier to replace.

By the way reading post's about removing the roll bar, according to Warrior who is a tester, removing the anti-roll bar is an MOT fail (if they spot it).
My garage will be sure to spot it if its not there having failed it.

[muddle]

Nope, tell them to read through their little book, not there = no fail

[johnsiddle]

Nope, tell them to read through their little book, not there = no fail

Apparently the book say's if it was fitted as standard then it has to be there, if it is not then it is a fail.

[muddle]

Get them to show that to you. Its ########.

[Bogus]

same applies to your windscreen, you can remove that for the MOT too.

[NiftyNev]

Does that mean if you have bald tyres. then you just remove the rims so it will then not fail, because of bald tyres?

Strange testing you have over there, when you can remove an important suspension part and pass.

Nev

[TonyN]

Strange testing you have over there, when you can remove an important suspension part and pass.

Nev

Its not that important, older Pickups don't have them from factory.

Its its fitted it needs to work, if its not there, no worries.

The MOT test is over rated, its basically to make sure the car isn't a shed about to kill people, its not overly 'deep'. A car has be in reasonable condition mechanically, stop properly and meet some vauge emissions standards.

It up to the police on the street to decide if you're breaking and construction and use regulations on how a car is modified and built.

[shokenore]

My MOT tester told me to"pack out the worn rubber bushes with washers and really graunch it tight"


I got new links and poly bushes.

I did ask him about removing the ARB as it would not fail if it wasn't there,and was told that if it is standard equipment then it must be presented for testing.


Surely the windscreen must be there?

[muddle]

They have no guide to tell them wether its standard equip or not, could be optional extra, its meerly a driving aid, same applies to reverse lights and rear wipers, not needed just an aid.

[shokenore]

They have no guide to tell them wether its standard equip or not, could be optional extra, its meerly a driving aid, same applies to reverse lights and rear wipers, not needed just an aid.

While I tend to agree with you that the MOT tester may have no official way of checking if the vehicle had ARB as standard,IE factory fitted,you would be pretty much up against it if you decided to "hide" the mountings,be it in particular the axle mounts or the chassis mounts.Surely most MOT testers have some mechanical expertise and would be surprised that your truck did not have ARB
However would they not have access to previous test results and in particular any previous fails or advisories ?
Yes you could cut off the ARB bracket mounts on the rear axle and then paint over the grind marks and possibly just put bolts in the chassis rails and you could carry out similar mods to disguise the fronts.


Yes I know that having the ARB removed will give better axle articulation which could be useful off road,however not many of us have the luxury of being able to have our off roader trailered to and from our off road adventures mine also has to carry out a multitude of tasks including carrying doors,shopping,moving paving slabs,removing tree stumps,taking me on my fishing trips,airport runs,Salisbury Plain and one feature which I quite enjoy is being able to go around roundabouts without toppling over or having to crawl around corners.


Obviously my MOT tester is a bit anal.

[TonyN]

Surely the windscreen must be there?

It'd like most of the MOT arguments, technically yes, but if you rock up to an MOT without a windscreen in your surf and the tester will either think you're taking the pee and get the hump or not take you seriously.

Either way isn't the way to get an MOT, neither is arguing with the tester about stuff that is blatently dodgy even if its technically ok.

Far less stressful to just prepare your truck properly, and fix any worn/broken bits so it works properly and go away happily for another year.

I take ARB's off on trucks with broken links if I don't have spares in stock on the day and fix them properly after the MOT is done, otherwise fix them before hand and its no problem. Go with a broken ARB link or worn bushes and you will get a fail and will have to go back for a retest.

[TonyN]

You chassis is covered in unused holes and fittings, they no they don't have to look at old MOT's, but if you give them an old MOT with adviseries on it then its human nature to check they've been done for this year.

Like I said prevously, mk1 and 2 UK pickups don't have ARBs, but axles have all the fittings for them for other markets.

While I tend to agree with you that the MOT tester may have no official way of checking if the vehicle had ARB as standard,IE factory fitted,you would be pretty much up against it if you decided to "hide" the mountings,be it in particular the axle mounts or the chassis mounts.Surely most MOT testers have some mechanical expertise and would be surprised that your truck did not have ARB
However would they not have access to previous test results and in particular any previous fails or advisories ?
Yes you could cut off the ARB bracket mounts on the rear axle and then paint over the grind marks and possibly just put bolts in the chassis rails and you could carry out similar mods to disguise the fronts.


Yes I know that having the ARB removed will give better axle articulation which could be useful off road,however not many of us have the luxury of being able to have our off roader trailered to and from our off road adventures mine also has to carry out a multitude of tasks including carrying doors,shopping,moving paving slabs,removing tree stumps,taking me on my fishing trips,airport runs,Salisbury Plain and one feature which I quite enjoy is being able to go around roundabouts without toppling over or having to crawl around corners.


Obviously my MOT tester is a bit anal.