3.0 smoking surf!!

[sandgirl1975]

Hi there,
i think you're probably right, i'll give the cheap option a quick try first! But i'll start saving now!!

[Razorhoof]

Fortunately I have avoided this problem as the previous owner of my surf had his head crack in four places due to the curse of the Janese Antifreeze.

He had only had it 4 days so it was sorted under warranty - new timing belt included.... :o).

[stormforce]

if you find you need a new head Claire and you need a good garage to fit it then try Treverbyn motors in Camborne.Dave who owns the garage i have known for about 20yrs and he knows about the imports as he does all the imports for the showroom.You can get the complete head from Stevo here http://www.hiluxsurf.co.uk/members_p...evo/index.html

and Dave will fit it for you.He is the only garage that i let work on my truck

[sandgirl1975]

Hi Richard,
I see Milner do a cylinder head kit for £645.00. Do you know what the difference is between Milner's and Steveo's? (apart from the price of course). My husband will do the work once we've decided what's up. He's in to old American car's (does'nt like this modern stuff)!! He know's Dave up at Treverbyn and agree's he's a top bloke. Appreciate all you good people advising me. Cheers

[stormforce]

Hi Richard,
I see Milner do a cylinder head kit for £645.00. Do you know what the difference is between Milner's and Steveo's? (apart from the price of course). My husband will do the work once we've decided what's up. He's in to old American car's (does'nt like this modern stuff)!! He know's Dave up at Treverbyn and agree's he's a top bloke. Appreciate all you good people advising me. Cheers

The stevo head will come complete with everything needed whereas with the milners it looks as if you will still have to pay for bits and peices extra,but someone who knows more about the heads could tell you more about them,but from what i have read about the heads i would definately get one from Stevo as he knows his stuff and has a good reputation

if you take a look in the off road section Claire if you are interested in meeting up with a good bunch of surfers in September then there is a weekend meet in Camborne with a days off roading and hopefully a days laning

[Nic0809]

White smoke

The dreaded white smoke!
My first post here but having read much of the great information available here thought I should add my thoughts.
I've got a blue 1KZ 3.0L turbo which has done approx. 140K Km which started occassionally puffing out white smoke a couple of weeks ago.
Only noticed it when stopped but and thought, what the heck I'll look at it next weekend etc....!
Stupid move!
After a few more days it go worse and sure enough it's not just the head gasket but a cracked head (number 3 cylinder) Thankfully block looks ok.
Net result, new cylinder head (bought from Bob who is advertising on e-bay although I contacted him directly, don't know if I've got a good deal but it's costing £530 compleat incl VAT, delivery for a full new head.
Guess I just wanted to say don't ignore the smoke, investigate yesterday! not tomorrow.
Also will a radiator flush do? Can't really afford a new one?

Great vehicle though.........

[stormforce]

The dreaded white smoke!
My first post here but having read much of the great information available here thought I should add my thoughts.
I've got a blue 1KZ 3.0L turbo which has done approx. 140K Km which started occassionally puffing out white smoke a couple of weeks ago.
Only noticed it when stopped but and thought, what the heck I'll look at it next weekend etc....!
Stupid move!
After a few more days it go worse and sure enough it's not just the head gasket but a cracked head (number 3 cylinder) Thankfully block looks ok.
Net result, new cylinder head (bought from Bob who is advertising on e-bay although I contacted him directly, don't know if I've got a good deal but it's costing £530 compleat incl VAT, delivery for a full new head.
Guess I just wanted to say don't ignore the smoke, investigate yesterday! not tomorrow.
Also will a radiator flush do? Can't really afford a new one?

Great vehicle though.........

Hi and welcome.By all means give the rad a good flush out, but just keep an eye on it for a bit incase there is any leaks from it and make sure you have all the air locks out.While your at it i would change the thermostat and rad cap.

[toyotav84x4]

Net result, new cylinder head (bought from Bob who is advertising on e-bay although I contacted him directly, don't know if I've got a good deal but it's costing £530 compleat incl VAT, delivery for a full new head.

Thanks for your post but sorry to hear your news. Let us know how your repair goes and what you think of these heads sold on ebay. They are a great price but are a non-genuine casting. I haven't seen the results either way as to their performance.
If your head cracked during your ownership then you must find the cause or you will do the same to the new one! 3.0 heads don't appear to crack without some heavy abuse or coolant loss.
Good luck and keep us posted.

[toyotav84x4]

and the result of the aftermarket head is???????????

[The bailiff]

Can anyone solve this??

First of all Hi everyone. Had my surf 3 years but new to the site.

Well first request is HELP

I have a 3.0tdi mk2. Its had head change in september, along with new rad, water pump, timing belt, full service and rad cap. All running great til now.

Had full service again 2 weeks ago. Just before it had started to blow white/grey smoke mainly on tick over. Couldnt find a reason, so ran it for a while. Temp is fine, oil pressure fine. not using any oil or water and got loads of go. Still on tick over it smokes like a bonfire.

HELP Please

[stormforce]

First of all Hi everyone. Had my surf 3 years but new to the site.

Well first request is HELP

I have a 3.0tdi mk2. Its had head change in september, along with new rad, water pump, timing belt, full service and rad cap. All running great til now.

Had full service again 2 weeks ago. Just before it had started to blow white/grey smoke mainly on tick over. Couldnt find a reason, so ran it for a while. Temp is fine, oil pressure fine. not using any oil or water and got loads of go. Still on tick over it smokes like a bonfire.

HELP Please

you don't say that the thermostat has been changed so i would do that first and put some redex in the fuel

[M35A2]

Hi Claire,

I'm sorry to here about your truck. it definitely sounds like the head or head gasket has gone.

I have just done mine last week. My symptoms were pressurised coolant coming out of the header tank and that was it. No oil in water/water in oil, temp normal, no white smoke (in fact no smoke at all) started 1st time every time, no loss of power, no steam coming from the oil dipstick tube or rocker cover. And my truck has a brand new radiator.



Definitely buy the head from Stevo. I bought mine from him. It is a GENUINE brand new Toyota 3.0lt cylinder head and comes with a genuine Toyota head gasket. It comes with an aftermarket gasket set and head bolts. The head has been fitted with an exchange cam shaft, valves, lifters and is all shimmed up ready to fit. It seemed to have new bearing caps and valve stem oil seals too. The price INC of postage is £899. You have to send your old head back when done with your old camshaft, valves etc still on. I got my mate at Toyota to check the part number (assuming the label was genuine) at it is the superceded genuine 3.0lt head.

One thing I will warn you about that he never mentioned is that the head doesn't come with new manifold studs. You can unscrew the exhaust manifold studs as they have a star for a star socket to undo them. The inlet can be removed using some mole grips, but i just bought new ones.

Also there are 5 sizes of head gasket fitted at the factory and 3 available from Toyota. You need to see which size you have fitted to yours and replace with the same. Toyota do sizes 1,3,and 5. Stevo sent me a 5, but mine was a 3, so I had to order one from Toyota. This is due to the piston protrusion out of the block. If yours is a 2 or 4 then go for the next size up.

If you haven't removed a Surf head before and have all the cruise control, barametric altitude compensation system etc fitted like mine then make sure you mark the little rubber hoses so that you know how they go back. The job is a bit*h. and took me a whole week, but this was cleaning EVERTHING.

Have a look at my post. If you need any help, give me a shout. It is very much engrained on my mind...


http://www.hiluxsurf.co.uk/forums/sh...ad.php?t=31502

[The bailiff]

you don't say that the thermostat has been changed so i would do that first and put some redex in the fuel

Thermostat was changed with pump and radiator. All the filters have been changed as well. Its had redex in the tank and oil treatment in the engine. Still not using oil or water that i can see. I'm totally baffled. Someone has suggested the turbo.

Any advice gratefully recieved

[Nic0809]

New head

Hi,
Have just finished having the head /engine rebuilt, new head good but to be fair took a bit of time to remove all of the swarf from within the casting. Only comment would be that the glow plugs are recessed deeper into the block so it requires more revolutions to start the engine. Is the latest revised toyota casting like this?
Engine up and running, sounds great and only have one remaining problem........
Oil pressure, or more to the point, the oil pressure gauge. As soon as the ignition is turned on the gauge moves to the right, going all the way to the high mark. After starting the gauge drops to zero. We've checked with a seperate gauge and the real pressure is approx. 60 psi.
Any ideas? We've tried 2 seperate senders and get the same result.

Ideas on a postcard.........

Thanks,
Nic................ almost back on the road.

[toyotav84x4]

Great to hear its up and running.

I don't think the 3.0 toyota head is a revised version (only the 2.4 uses a different spec to cure the cooling issue).

My toyota head was clean as a whistle with almost no trace of swarf and I see no difference to the glow plug holes. Then again it was more £'s.

I think time will tell you how good the head is but fingers crossed it will last the vehicle life if no faults arise with the cooling elsewhere.

Oil pressure must be electrical fault if pressure is ok. Someone here will tell you in a few minutes. Maybe no feed at all.
Good Luck