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    me again took my surf to a auto micanic and he says that it needs a new gear box. he says that he can smell burning in the trans fluid , can this be true by smelling trans fluid not a happy chap as he says its going to cost me £1200 pounds for new one

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    Originally posted by tonys surf
    me again took my surf to a auto micanic and he says that it needs a new gear box. he says that he can smell burning in the trans fluid , can this be true by smelling trans fluid not a happy chap as he says its going to cost me £1200 pounds for new one

    I would say its not likley to be true. You can smell burned fluid that much IS true but if your box suddenly went from working to not working its very probably a simple problem.

    You need to answer in detail.

    Does it try to engage at all in ANY gear? Have you tried 4 wheel drive?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by phoebelala
      I would say its not likley to be true. You can smell burned fluid that much IS true but if your box suddenly went from working to not working its very probably a simple problem.

      You need to answer in detail.

      Does it try to engage at all in ANY gear? Have you tried 4 wheel drive?
      yes it will engage in gear some times then when it as been runing for about 5 min's then you try again and it will not. it also goes into 4 wheel drive as well. today i tryed to put it into slip dif but i herd somthing from gear box so didant try eney more. does this help?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tonys surf
        yes it will engage in gear some times then when it as been runing for about 5 min's then you try again and it will not. it also goes into 4 wheel drive as well. today i tryed to put it into slip dif but i herd somthing from gear box so didant try eney more. does this help?
        you sound as if you know a lot about my surf would it be all wright if i rang you up so i can tell you everything about it thanks

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        • #5
          Burnt smelling fluid is just that, did they even try flushing it out and changing it first, or just waded in with a "its bust mate, give us £1200"

          You could have have worn out the clutch bands, if the fluid was really bad and the tranny has been working hard and got hot towing things, but its unusual.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TonyN
            Burnt smelling fluid is just that, did they even try flushing it out and changing it first, or just waded in with a "its bust mate, give us £1200"

            You could have have worn out the clutch bands, if the fluid was really bad and the tranny has been working hard and got hot towing things, but its unusual.

            i there i dont tow with my surf, and the fluid was a little low but after i put half a pint in there was to much in. it as been playing up for a day or two (needing that extra bit of power to set of) thanks for your help in this matter

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            • #7
              Originally posted by phoebelala
              I would say its not likley to be true. You can smell burned fluid that much IS true but if your box suddenly went from working to not working its very probably a simple problem.

              You need to answer in detail.

              Does it try to engage at all in ANY gear? Have you tried 4 wheel drive?
              today i have draind trans fluid+put fresh in, then put it into drive and pulled of then i put it into rev and it pulled back ok done this about 4 times.then it went again when i put it into drive nothing ? can you help me with this problem thanks tony

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              • #8
                Just a thought but is your hi-low lever (the small one on the right side) fully back in the H position, as if it's not fully engaged it might be allowing the transfer box to slip into neutral, thereby giving you zero drive. Also, have you checked there is sufficient oil in the transfer case?
                Mike G

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tallyman
                  Just a thought but is your hi-low lever (the small one on the right side) fully back in the H position, as if it's not fully engaged it might be allowing the transfer box to slip into neutral, thereby giving you zero drive. Also, have you checked there is sufficient oil in the transfer case?
                  thanks for your help the hi low lever on my surf H2 is up towards the dash also i have today droped trans fluid and put new in , then tryed in drive and it pulled forward and then rev back ok did this for about 4 times then on the 5time nothing switched of left it about 5 min whent back put into drive and it whent forward again then same thing again after 4 times back to same.

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                  • #10
                    Hi Tony,

                    In the Surf, unless you are driving a 3rd Gen (update your profile with your vehicle details so we know) the small lever should always be towards the rear to run the car in 2WD (i.e. 2H), although you can use the 4WD button on the small lever to put it into 4WD (i.e. 4H) on slippery surfaces. Never use a 1st or 2nd Gen on tarmac in 4WD (either 4H or 4L) or you will bugger the transmission as it doesn't have a centre diff, so once you turn the steering wheel you'll get transmission wind-up.

                    If it's not that, then it sounds like something in either the gearbox, or possibly the torque converter, is losing drive when it starts to heat up. Have you tried to drive the car for any distance whilst it's been doing this?

                    I had a problem years ago in an old Mk2 Escort Auto where the selector solenoids for 1st & reverse gave up half way to Norfolk from Bristol because the gearbox overheated. Managed to drive to Norfolk with just second and third gears, then after leaving it to cool down overnight it worked OK for the week we were over there but it had to be fixed when we got back. Could be you have something similar?

                    Have you tried putting the selector lever in 2 and seeing if it will continue to drive? If not, try it (presuming you can get the car back home if it loses drive) and if it works OK then it's probably the solenoids that need fixing.
                    Last edited by Tallyman; 20 May 2006, 22:22.
                    Mike G

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                    • #11
                      that to me sounds like a solenoid issue. if i was you i would replace the solenoid which should be cheaper compared to a new tranny. a worn out solenoid can confuse the computer. I would also diconnect all batteries for a few minutes to reset the computer.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ferret
                        that to me sounds like a solenoid issue. if i was you i would replace the solenoid which should be cheaper compared to a new tranny. a worn out solenoid can confuse the computer. I would also diconnect all batteries for a few minutes to reset the computer.
                        hi there thank you for your input, you say solenoid issue and also disconnect all batteries . can you tell me what this will do as (reset the computer) i am new to surfs?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tonys surf
                          hi there thank you for your input, you say solenoid issue and also disconnect all batteries . can you tell me what this will do as (reset the computer) i am new to surfs?
                          by disconnecting the batteries it will reset the ecu(computer) on the surf and see if that will work.leave them disconnected for a short while and then re-connect
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                          • #14
                            This might sound like a really silly question but.........has your truck got a body lift?
                            It's only a hobby!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kitesurf_phil
                              This might sound like a really silly question but.........has your truck got a body lift?
                              no it hasant thanks

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