advice needed

[les ward]

i think my headgasket or waterump is gone rac was not sure
sympton,s are
1 top of rad stone cold
2 top hose solid
3 no heat from heaters

i have no thermostat no oil in water no sludge on oil filler cap but if i remove the rad cap off inlet manifold i get froth from it. always got to break down right before going away on holiday

[andyverran]

Do you have the tools to do a sniff test or compression test?

[les ward]

no sir
oh and another point aircon fan permanently running

[andyverran]

How about being able to check for play in the water pump?

[les ward]

How about being able to check for play in the water pump?

i,ll get a mobile mechanic to come take a look as im not that competent to fix it

to check water pump for play grab the fan and try moving up down and so on?

[charvell]

Sounds like the head, unlikely to be the gasket.

[les ward]

Sounds like the head, unlikely to be the gasket.

hope not or it might be the shortest i've owned a 4x4 before weighing it in for scrap

[talisman]

I have a question,seriously. Why should the top of the rad be cold if the head or gasket is faulty? If the water pump is ok shouldnt it at least push some hot/warm water around. Just trying to learn.

[tweak'e]

i think my headgasket or waterump is gone rac was not sure
sympton,s are
1 top of rad stone cold
2 top hose solid
3 no heat from heaters

i have no thermostat no oil in water no sludge on oil filler cap but if i remove the rad cap off inlet manifold i get froth from it. always got to break down right before going away on holiday

froth is not uncommon just from the coolant used.
bubbles is a different story.

is it overheating?

also all those symptons is what you get when you have no thermostat.
also having no thermostat CAUSES OVERHEATING and head cracking.
you need the thermostat in there to close off the bypass port. with bypass open 1/2 the water bypasses the radiator.

[les ward]

no overheating at all which is strange

[les ward]

I have a question,seriously. Why should the top of the rad be cold if the head or gasket is faulty? If the water pump is ok shouldnt it at least push some hot/warm water around. Just trying to learn.

same bud confusing to me too

[andyverran]

silly thought...have you checked the water level?
...and I don't mean in the expansion tank....

[shokenore]

silly thought...have you checked the water level?
...and I don't mean in the expansion tank....

My thoughts exactly.
If there ain't enough water to touch the sensor then it ain't gonna look like its getting hot.

[les ward]

only by expansion tank but been filling via the cap on engine how else do you check it?

[andyverran]

only by expansion tank but been filling via the cap on engine how else do you check it?

Cap on the thermostat housing was what i meant...just wanted to be sure you'd done that (which you have by the sound of it)...obviously the expansion tank doesn't reflect the level in the engine.